Nothing on the Fort Hood tragedy ?

[Bearded Frog]

The A-hole is guilty as sin. We all know it and anyone who says otherwise is kidding themselves. He should have been kicked out of the military when they found out he was trying to contact terrorist organizations but he wasn't. Why? The US is now a bunch of PC pussies. Everyone is afraid to say ANYthing bad about a muslim as this can be construed as "hate". It's gotten so bad that even our own military leaders are walking on eggshells on the subject. Pathetic. This guy mirrors my thoughts:

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion...N7gl7zdsJ31vnJ

just like she was eh?
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/teacher-re...ory?id=8880598

[noorman]

The A-hole is guilty as sin. We all know it and anyone who says otherwise is kidding themselves. He should have been kicked out of the military when they found out he was trying to contact terrorist organizations but he wasn't. Why? The US is now a bunch of PC pussies. Everyone is afraid to say ANYthing bad about a muslim as this can be construed as "hate". It's gotten so bad that even our own military leaders are walking on eggshells on the subject. Pathetic. This guy mirrors my thoughts:

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion...N7gl7zdsJ31vnJ

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It 's like that in almost the whole of the Western world; nobody dare say anything against them for fear of being called a racist.
It has nothing to do with race, but with extreme religious preachings and followers !
It 's them who hate us (for lots of things) and that gets developed in to murderous hate ! (see the explosive packed followers who blow themselves up amongst innocent people they don't know)


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[kbohip]

just like she was eh?
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/teacher-re...ory?id=8880598

OMFG! Forget apples and oranges, this is more like apples and rocket fuel. Two TOTALLY different things happened here. Let me spell it out for you. One story is a teacher who may have had an affair with a student. Her name was wrongfully dragged through the mud by the media and a lot of other people. A he said she said situation where there were no witnesses and they took the word of a high school boy as gospel.

The other story is a guy who goes through an army base shooting as many people as possible. There are HUNDREDS of witnesses! He was finally put down (not with a bullet between the eyes unfortunately) by force while still holding the murder weapons. In other words known as getting caught red handed.

I will agree with you that the media has to refer to him as the alleged shooter. I won't however agree with you that anyone else has to.

[taman]

^^^

Even if you serve on a jury, you are not expected to have no opinion on guilt or innocence. They only ask you if you think you can impartially listen to the evidence.

"If however, any of us do ever get selected for jury duty on a case where you do not honestly feel you can be fair or objective and have a presumption of guilt"

ummmmmmmmmmmmm?????

[Bearded Frog]

OMFG! Forget apples and oranges, this is more like apples and rocket fuel. Two TOTALLY different things happened here. Let me spell it out for you. One story is a teacher who may have had an affair with a student. Her name was wrongfully dragged through the mud by the media and a lot of other people. A he said she said situation where there were no witnesses and they took the word of a high school boy as gospel.

The other story is a guy who goes through an army base shooting as many people as possible. There are HUNDREDS of witnesses! He was finally put down (not with a bullet between the eyes unfortunately) by force while still holding the murder weapons. In other words known as getting caught red handed.

I will agree with you that the media has to refer to him as the alleged shooter. I won't however agree with you that anyone else has to.

Different incidents but its still the same thing. Unless you are him or one of the people directly involved you have no real say. Im not saying you can't call him guilty. This is still a partially free country you can say whatever you want. I am just saying you really should wait before jumping to conclusions. Sometimes the truth might suprise you. Peoples lives shouldnt be ruined while they are still considered accused.

You are welcome to have an opinion. Just realize it is only an opinion not fact.

[Dutchcedar]

Peoples lives shouldnt be ruined while they are still considered accused.

You are welcome to have an opinion. Just realize it is only an opinion not fact.

Forty one people were gunned down, twelve people had their lives "ruined" in a very permanent sense. A little bit of opinion could have gone a long way to change that fact, or at least to stop it from becoming a fact.

This politically correct crap has gone a few steps too far.

Its time to change this tune from "the Fort Hood tragedy" to "The Fort Hood Terrorist Attack".

[ai5000]

Anyone know when this guy joined the army?

[TMack409]

Anyone know when this guy joined the army?

IIRC he joined right out of High School.

[Bearded Frog]

Forty one people were gunned down, twelve people had their lives "ruined" in a very permanent sense. A little bit of opinion could have gone a long way to change that fact, or at least to stop it from becoming a fact.

This politically correct crap has gone a few steps too far.

Its time to change this tune from "the Fort Hood tragedy" to "The Fort Hood Terrorist Attack".

If 8 million people were gunned down it still wouldn't change the fact that what you just said is completely unconnected to what I said. Yes, there is a good chance someone should have noticed the signs on this guy. What does that have to do with innocent until provent guilty?

Its not time to change any tunes. If you call it a terrorist attack right now does that solve anything? We need to just find the facts and assess and deal with them as they come. Until they are all there we should stop jumping to conclusions and guilt.

[Dutchcedar]

^^^ Havin' a little trouble connecting the dots?

[Bearded Frog]

^^^ Havin' a little trouble connecting the dots?

having trouble being coherent?

[Dutchcedar]

At least some in DC get it.

Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) Wednesday called the Fort Hood killings an “act of terror” and joined a parade of GOP critics in suggesting that “political correctness” might have been a factor in not preventing the shootings.

“We ought to make sure ‘political correctness’ never impedes national security,” McCain said in a speech at the University of Louisville.

McCain’s comments echoed those of a variety of Republican politicians and commentators — as well as Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn) — over the past few days as information about the background of the alleged shooter has surfaced in the media. The criticisms, which initially focused on the failure of the administration and the Army to use the word “terrorism” or “jihadism” in connection with Fort Hood, are now being merged with a larger Republican portrayal of the Obama administration’s approach toward terrorism generally.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1109/29411.html

And I'm guessing that there's a concerted movement afoot to paint this as if its not a terrorist attack on American soil under Obama's watch.

[tucker]

As fast as it takes for you to complain about it.

Answer the question and stop doing the world’s famous liberal two-step line-dance.

[Wolf2000me]

At least some in DC get it.http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1109/29411.html

And I'm guessing that there's a concerted movement afoot to paint this as if its not a terrorist attack on American soil under Obama's watch.

I don't know... What makes this any different from the drama at Columbine or any other gun toting wanker who goes on a spree? The fact that this one is a Muslim doesn't change one bit imo. That he might be motivated by his extreme interpretation of his religion is just another motivation to me. There's only one important thing all those kinds of murderers have in common. They're looneys and that's that, imho.

If someone here wants to use the word "alleged" that's just another choice, and I don't see why there should be that much fuss around it. Either you use it or you don't. I won't use it because of the obviousness of guilt of this wanker, but that's just me.

[tucker]

This forum isn’t a court of law therefore I can express my opinion and state the more than obvious facts. This guy is guilty of an act of terror against the United States of America. He was not only facilitated by out of control political correctness he was virtually given the green light by our intelligence agencies and the US Army. As far as I’m concerned they are guilty of facilitating an act of terror.

Many heads should roll as far as I’m concerned…

Of course this a**hole is crazier than bat shit but aren’t all Jihadists and Islamic Extremists…