Need help choosing processor phenom II x4 820 2.8 VS core 2 duo e8400 3.0

[Johnnyblazzwa]

510 is the price with the only upgrade being the phenon II 820 4x 2.8,

or i can pay 530 and get e8400 core 2 duo 3.0 with the same basic setup, 320 gig, 3 gig ram, win 7, same deal both with lowsier intergrated graphics cards(my next upgrade)

the amd offer is 200 off and the intel is 150 off



leaning towards the amd x4 until somebody tells me the e8400 is the better buy for what i need. the duo will use less wattage thats for sure

[mr_raider]

Link?

[Johnnyblazzwa]

http://go.pcper.com/?id=267X417&url=...p-inspiron-546


here's the link to the amd rig as base, though you have to go to processors and upgrade to the phenom which cost's an extra 10 buck

the intel unit, the ispiron 545 is the same price and cost 30 bucks to upgrade to the duo core 2 e8400 3.0

510$ and 530$, pretty respectable , will buy a graphics card afterwards

[TheGlasMan]

Notice the upgraded video cards available, a 4350 or GT220 which most likely the limots of what the PSU will support.

Also the system has 3 dimms, which doesn't work well with amd dual channel. Don't understand why they do this. Apparently intels can run with 3 but the 3rd has to be single channel. I don't even know if AMD's can do that at all,

Check HP they have the same $200 off, 4 dimms 640GB, 4000 series integrated free shipping for 530 with same processor.

Recently (but before the latest price drops) I got a high end gigabyte board, PII 945, nvidia 275 GPU and 4 GB of 1800 DDR3 for 500 bucks

At new egg
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Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST3500418AS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5

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Crucial 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model CT2KIT25664BA1339

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Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM
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$104.99

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AMD Phenom II 925 Deneb 2.8GHz Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core Processor Model HDX925WFGIBOX
ECS BLACK SERIES A790GXM-AD3 AM3 AMD 790GX HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard

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AMD Phenom II 925 Deneb 2.8GHz Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core Processor Model HDX925WFGIBOX - Retail
Item #: N82E16819103656
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ECS BLACK SERIES A790GXM-AD3 AM3 AMD 790GX HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
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-$10.00 Instant
-$39.99 Combo
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$260.98
$210.99

Subtotal: $509.95

Just a quick shot. The board and processor are over kill you can save money on that for a good PSU (the wisest investment you can make in your case)

gotta go

[Johnnyblazzwa]

Notice the upgraded video cards available, a 4350 or GT220 which most likely the limots of what the PSU will support.

Also the system has 3 dimms, which doesn't work well with amd dual channel. Don't understand why they do this. Apparently intels can run with 3 but the 3rd has to be single channel. I don't even know if AMD's can do that at all,

Check HP they have the same $200 off, 4 dimms 640GB, 4000 series integrated free shipping for 530 with same processor.

Recently (but before the latest price drops) I got a high end gigabyte board, PII 945, nvidia 275 GPU and 4 GB of 1800 DDR3 for 500 bucks

At new egg
COOLER MASTER Elite RC-330-KKR1 Black SECC ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 350W Power Supply - Retail
Item #: N82E16811119118
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

-$10.00 Instant


$59.99
$49.99

select item 2 quantity of item 2


Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST3500418AS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5

Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST3500418AS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Item #: N82E16822148395
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

-$5.00 Instant


$59.99
$54.99

select item 3 quantity of item 3


Crucial 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model CT2KIT25664BA1339

Crucial 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model CT2KIT25664BA1339 - Retail
Item #: N82E16820148262
Return Policy: Memory Standard Return Policy



$88.99

select item 4 quantity of item 4


Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM
Item #: N82E16832116754
Return Policy: Software Return Policy



$104.99

select item 5 quantity of item 5

AMD Phenom II 925 Deneb 2.8GHz Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core Processor Model HDX925WFGIBOX
ECS BLACK SERIES A790GXM-AD3 AM3 AMD 790GX HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard

*

AMD Phenom II 925 Deneb 2.8GHz Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core Processor Model HDX925WFGIBOX - Retail
Item #: N82E16819103656
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

*

ECS BLACK SERIES A790GXM-AD3 AM3 AMD 790GX HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
Item #: N82E16813135236
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

Protect Your Investment (expand for options13-135-23610|hide options13-135-23610)

Service Net Replacement Extended Warranty Plan

The product will be replaced and shipped directly to you at no charge(more info13-135-2361.0.18)
o 1 year: $16.99
o 2 year: $25.99

-$10.00 Instant
-$39.99 Combo
$18.00 Mail-in Rebate13-135-236

$260.98
$210.99

Subtotal: $509.95

Just a quick shot. The board and processor are over kill you can save money on that for a good PSU (the wisest investment you can make in your case)

gotta go

Good insight glassman
just wondering if your using US dollars because in canada we pay more for everything, even when the dollar is near par

i'll have to check out new egg none the less, canadian online wholesalers i've been looking at are selling win 7 for 150 and up. with those prices i could definitely build me a rig for my suiting, i'd probably go down to a 250 gig hardrive and try to upgrade the amd for something real badass

thanks cud

[Johnnyblazzwa]

ok i just see that newegghas a canadian site so i'll see what i can build with what you mentioned

[Johnnyblazzwa]

so i'm looking on newegg canada and the cheapest case i see made by cooling master is 79.99. just an example of how canadians are raped by retailers, doesn't help that our greasy government holds back the CAD with their greasy policies and tell's canadians they want a low currency

[mr_raider]

http://go.pcper.com/?id=267X417&url=...p-inspiron-546


here's the link to the amd rig as base, though you have to go to processors and upgrade to the phenom which cost's an extra 10 buck

the intel unit, the ispiron 545 is the same price and cost 30 bucks to upgrade to the duo core 2 e8400 3.0

510$ and 530$, pretty respectable , will buy a graphics card afterwards

I would get the AMD system, just based on the fact that the integrated graphics (3200) is far better than the Intel 3100.

Before you buy, search the net thoroughly to make sure that that Dell desktop can accept standard ATX PSU upgrades. You will most certainly need to upgrade the PSU and ther GPU.

[mr_raider]

Here is a cheaper case for the basic gamer:

http://ncix.com/products/index.php?s...c&promoid=1033

Check out the the price on win 7 OEM:

http://ncix.com/products/productdeta...er=1&sku=45271

Notice the combo deal with the Antec 300 case!

[Johnnyblazzwa]

I would get the AMD system, just based on the fact that the integrated graphics (3200) is far better than the Intel 3100.

Before you buy, search the net thoroughly to make sure that that Dell desktop can accept standard ATX PSU upgrades. You will most certainly need to upgrade the PSU and ther GPU.

this is a question and answer from a dell message board page

http://en.community.dell.com/forums/t/19290838.aspx



Hey everyone, I was just wondering if it was possible to upgrade the power supply in the Inspiron 546. Not the slimline model, the tower version. Thanks a lot!

kevindubrow

For the Inspiron 546MT, you can use most generic standard ATX power supply units, with either a 24-pin or 20+4-pin main motherboard power connector, with or without the on/off switch.
You should be able to buy a compatible power supply from either a local or online computer store.

Note: You require a power supply with four SATA power connectors.
Bev.