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    Re: Advice on new CPU

    Instance, Biostar lists the the E6300 as a Core 2 Duo @ 1.86 GHz while Intel lists the E6300 @ 2.8 GHz under the Pentium family and not the Core 2 Duo family. Are these the same cpu's?
    Yes and no. Yes because they have the same foundation of Core 2 series, no because they renamed and modernized the E6300 under different name, the Pentium family name and increased the clock frequency.

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    Re: Advice on new CPU

    Quote Originally Posted by 3dfxrain View Post
    Same type.

    Type: A number of people or things having in common traits or characteristics that distinguish them as a group or class.

    Common traits being E5400: 45nm, worfdale for example, two traits.
    Sorry, this didn't make it any clearer.
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    Re: Advice on new CPU

    It should be easier to understand, anyway, I already understand, just advising

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    Re: Advice on new CPU

    Quote Originally Posted by bonz_dragon View Post
    Sorry, this didn't make it any clearer.
    All Intels after the Northwood Pentiums are the same basic design. The core 2 architecture. Whether they are mobile, desktop Celeron, quad, dual core, single core or Pentium. They are distinguished by their clock speed, amount of L2 cache, FSB frequency, voltage, power consumption and presence or absence of various features (hardware virtualization). Intel will lump them together in several families of CPUs, based on these features, and call them Mainstream desktop, budget, mobile, or CULV.

    In this case the pentium dual core refers to a particular line of socket 775 CPUs, with less L2 cache than the full fledged "mainstream" counterparts, and Intel sells them as value processors.
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    Re: Advice on new CPU

    Well I can't honestly say I understand it all but I guess I have learned a little bit about Intel. I suppose Biostar hasn't helped it either the way the laid out their supported cpus. I did finally find the E6300 listed twice on the supported list. Once as a E6300 @ 1.86 GHz and the at the very bottom of the list all by it's self as an E6300 @ 2.8 GHz. Seems strange to me to have 2 products with the same name but still being different.
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    Re: Advice on new CPU

    nstance, Biostar lists the the E6300 as a Core 2 Duo @ 1.86 GHz while Intel lists the E6300 @ 2.8 GHz under the Pentium family and not the Core 2 Duo family. Are these the same cpu's?
    The E 6300 is a P4 1066 FSB dual core 2.8GHz http://www.intel.com/products/proces...core/specs.htm
    The E6320 is a c2d 65nm 1066 1.86GHz http://www.intel.com/products/proces...e2duo+tab_spec

    Looks like someone made a BooBoo


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    Re: Advice on new CPU

    what is budget (amount you can spend) for CPU? then I advise the best one I can finds for monies or you can do yourself at favorite online stores

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    Re: Advice on new CPU

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGlasMan View Post
    The E 6300 is a P4 1066 FSB dual core 2.8GHz http://www.intel.com/products/proces...core/specs.htm
    The E6320 is a c2d 65nm 1066 1.86GHz http://www.intel.com/products/proces...e2duo+tab_spec

    Looks like someone made a BooBoo
    Make much more sense now! I had been looking on that linked page before and it didn't sink in that there wasn't an E6300 listed with the Core 2. Though I did a web search on "Intel E6300" and was able to come up with both speeds listed in reviews as an E6300. Seems that perticular family included the 6300,6400,6600 and the 6700.
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    Re: Advice on new CPU

    BIOS version in motherboard up to date with latest version?

    Website at Biostar with CPU list recommends.

    If you plan to upgrade processor from your existing unit, please update bios first before changing or upgrading processors.

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    Re: Advice on new CPU

    Quote Originally Posted by 3dfxrain View Post
    what is budget (amount you can spend) for CPU? then I advise the best one I can finds for monies or you can do yourself at favorite online stores
    Don't have a set budget, just looking for the best deal to fit this board that would be a nice upgrade from the socket 939 that I'm currantly using. Keeping in mind that this board is almost as dated as the 939. Also, the only reason for doing this is that I have the board, it was free and I'm bored. Again I already have everything else needed to put it together other than buying some more memory and the cpu. May even move up to W7 sense I've used the RC of it and liked it.

    The AMD64 4000+ is still more than capable of keeping up with everything I'm doing and honestly don't "need" an upgrade but this board just sitting here keeps calling my name! Then when I get it together and if it's as stable as my currant system then I'll most likely pass the 939 down to my little brother who's still using a socket A 1700 running Win98!
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    Re: Advice on new CPU

    Quote Originally Posted by 3dfxrain View Post
    BIOS version in motherboard up to date with latest version?

    Website at Biostar with CPU list recommends.
    board is brand new, never had a cpu in it.
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    Re: Advice on new CPU

    ok, not sure which BIOS version it has, should identify somehow, most reliable way is with older cpu to flash then replace cpu with newer CPU used in newer BIOS version

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    Re: Advice on new CPU

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGlasMan View Post
    The E 6300 is a P4 1066 FSB dual core 2.8GHz http://www.intel.com/products/proces...core/specs.htm
    The E6320 is a c2d 65nm 1066 1.86GHz http://www.intel.com/products/proces...e2duo+tab_spec

    Looks like someone made a BooBoo
    There is no E6300 which is a P4, the 2.8ghz is a 45nm in the Pentium class of processors. The Pentium line is the upper budget line, the Celeron being the low-end.

    The original E6300 was a 65nm core 2 duo clocked @ 1.86ghz. When this processor was released, it was at the low-end of the mainstream line of cpus.
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    Re: Advice on new CPU

    Yea, forgot intel re-issued the Pentium name with low cache in the shade after the Px line


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    Re: Advice on new CPU

    Quote Originally Posted by glussier View Post
    There is no E6300 which is a P4, the 2.8ghz is a 45nm in the Pentium class of processors. The Pentium line is the upper budget line, the Celeron being the low-end.

    The original E6300 was a 65nm core 2 duo clocked @ 1.86ghz. When this processor was released, it was at the low-end of the mainstream line of cpus.
    Correct. As I said above it is all COre 2 architecture. Intel, in their infinite wisdom, released two different CPUs with the same name.
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