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  1. #1816
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    Re: The 2012 Election Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Keven View Post
    Ron Paul is the only presidential candidate who can stop the world from ending on Dec 21 2012.

    Vote Ron Paul to stop the Mayan apocalypse.
    Ya know at this point, it just might work LOL

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    Re: The 2012 Election Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Keven View Post
    Since when is being rich a crime?


    It isn't, and you know perfectly well that is not what I said. I merely pointed out that being a millionaire whilst trying to claim that "you're just an ordinary joe" is hardly just a Democrat thing. And for good measure, I was trying to remind the Ron Paul groupies that he's not an outsider as he likes to claim.


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    Re: The 2012 Election Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Mania View Post
    Anybody that doesn't vote Ron Paul will be escalating an Iran/ Israel conflict:


    Conservatives = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGPD0ZBiMs0

    The Israelis are going to do what they think is in their best interest no matter what Obambi, Ron Paul or anybody else says or tells them.

    They aren’t plagued by the same politically correct policy of appeasement that the rest of the free world is.

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    Re: The 2012 Election Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Meridian View Post
    It isn't, and you know perfectly well that is not what I said. I merely pointed out that being a millionaire whilst trying to claim that "you're just an ordinary joe" is hardly just a Democrat thing. And for good measure, I was trying to remind the Ron Paul groupies that he's not an outsider as he likes to claim.


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    I didn't mean Obama is acting like an outsider. He's acting like he hasn't been in charge of the country for the past two years when he has and from 2009-2011 his party held majorities in both chambers of Congress. I don't know how he can talk about challenging the status quo when he's the status quo.

    I suppose to some extent Romney, Gingrich, Santorum and Paul are all as guilty as being apart of the GOP establishment. Though, I think my man Romney is the least insider-ry of the bunch, despite being hailed as the golden boy of the establishment. He was the governor of Massachusetts, not a federal legislator like Gingrich, Santorum and Paul who have all spent a combined 54 years in Washington DC.

    I stick to my theory that Obama will not run against the GOP challenger, but the Republican Party as a whole. Harry Truman did this in 1948 against the so-called "do nothing" Republican-controlled Congress.

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    Re: The 2012 Election Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Keven View Post
    I didn't mean Obama is acting like an outsider. He's acting like he hasn't been in charge of the country for the past two years when he has and from 2009-2011 his party held majorities in both chambers of Congress. I don't know how he can talk about challenging the status quo when he's the status quo.

    I suppose to some extent Romney, Gingrich, Santorum and Paul are all as guilty as being apart of the GOP establishment. Though, I think my man Romney is the least insider-ry of the bunch, despite being hailed as the golden boy of the establishment. He was the governor of Massachusetts, not a federal legislator like Gingrich, Santorum and Paul who have all spent a combined 54 years in Washington DC.

    I stick to my theory that Obama will not run against the GOP challenger, but the Republican Party as a whole. Harry Truman did this in 1948 against the so-called "do nothing" Republican-controlled Congress.

    Which is going to make for some interesting debates when the GOP challenger points out that "Hopenchange" had full control of the entire gubberment for the first 2 years of his reign presidency.

    -and-

    That his party still has control of the Senate (you know.. the other half of Congress) that has not passed a budget since before the ipad existed. It's been over 1,000 days!

    Bamma's cooked... stick a fork in him already. Even with the water carrying MSM on his side the stubborn facts that represent the results of his disastrous policies are too overwhelming. If the "D"s wanted to keep the WH that should have primaried his arse and run Billary.

    CANKLES 2012!




    email jimz enterprises if you'd like reimbursement for the lunch you just tossed.

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    "The most dangerous myth is the demagoguery that business can be made to pay a larger share, thus relieving the individual. Politicians preaching this are either deliberately dishonest, or economically illiterate, and either one should scare us...
    Only people pay taxes, and people pay as consumers every tax that is assessed against a business."


    -The Gipper


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    Re: The 2012 Election Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by AMDScooter View Post
    Which is going to make for some interesting debates when the GOP challenger points out that "Hopenchange" had full control of the entire gubberment for the first 2 years of his reign presidency.

    -and-

    That his party still has control of the Senate (you know.. the other half of Congress) that has not passed a budget since before the ipad existed. It's been over 1,000 days!

    Bamma's cooked... stick a fork in him already. Even with the water carrying MSM on his side the stubborn facts that represent the results of his disastrous policies are too overwhelming. If the "D"s wanted to keep the WH that should have primaried his arse and run Billary.

    CANKLES 2012!




    email jimz enterprises if you'd like reimbursement for the lunch you just tossed.

    Dude seriously?

    I can't un-see that shit.

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    Re: The 2012 Election Thread

    Ahhhhhh!



    Much better

    Seriously, leave Hillary's ankles alone.

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    Re: The 2012 Election Thread

    Interesting article.

    http://denver.cbslocal.com/2012/02/0...-for-security/

    DENVER (AP) – A suburban Denver sheriff says he’s going to start sending political campaigns the tab when roads have to be closed, traffic directed and deputies put on overtime.

    Arapahoe County Sheriff Grayson Robinson, a Republican, said he would send GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney a bill between $5,000 and $6,000 for “extraordinary” local security costs at a Romney rally planned for Centennial Monday afternoon.

    “I don’t think it’s appropriate for taxpayers to pay for a political campaign,” Robinson said Monday.

    For the county, law enforcement agencies shelling out big bucks to provide campaign security is the downside of being a prized area for political candidates.

    Arapahoe is a vote-rich swing county south and east of Denver. Republicans outnumber Democrats among its 235,000 or so active registered voters, but Democrats have had increasing success here in recent years.

    Robinson said his 800-employee department isn’t pinched for funds, and won’t change security plans based on a candidate’s willingness to pay for extraordinary security.

    “Will they pay? I don’t know. I guess I’ll cross that bridge later. In my mind, it’s just the right thing to do,” Robinson said.

    A Romney spokeswoman, Amanda Henneberg, said that Robinson’s request is the first local security tab the campaign has encountered. She didn’t say whether the Arapahoe bill would be paid. Romney also planned stops in three other Colorado counties

    Two weeks ago, President Barack Obama visited Arapahoe County on a five-state swing to promote ideas in his 2012 State of the Union address. Because that speech was an official visit, not a campaign event, Robinson said it would “inappropriate” to submit a security bill.

    Also, Obama’s January visit was confined to Buckley Air Force Base, with military security, so county expenses were minimal, Robinson said.

    Robinson pointed out that the U.S. Secret Service provides protection for current and former presidents, as well as certain presidential candidates. Romney currently is under Secret Service protection.

    “Congress appropriates money for that security, to make sure those guys are properly equipped and adequately compensated,” Robinson said. “They don’t make any provision for the locals, though.”

    Robinson concedes that his candidate billing is largely symbolic. In 2010, Robinson sent U.S. Senate campaigns bills for security. But Robinson says that neither Democratic Sen. Michael Bennet nor his unsuccessful Republican challenger, Ken Buck, ever paid the bills.

    Robinson said he’s heard from cash-strapped sheriff departments in other counties and states, but doesn’t know of any local force that’s been paid for providing security for a politician’s visit. He insisted that security plans wouldn’t change if candidates start paying.

    “First and foremost, my priority is public safety. We will make the events safe,” Robinson said.

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    Re: The 2012 Election Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Cobra_nVidia View Post
    Ahhhhhh!



    Much better

    Seriously, leave Hillary's ankles alone.
    Sigh. The first new hot babe picture posted on this site since the end of November.
    Beware liberals with guns.

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    Re: The 2012 Election Thread

    one difference between ron paul and the other "millionare" candidates is that hes pledging to cut his own presidential salary down to 37.5k p/y the avg american salary.

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    Re: The 2012 Election Thread

    In local news...

    There's an election for Milwaukee City Treasurer today. One candidate is running under the banner of the Socialist Party.

    Rick Kissell, a self-employed Spanish translator and card-carrying member of the American Socialist Party has run for public office 10 times in Milwaukee County and lost all 10 times.

    Kissell says that he would be an "activist treasurer in Milwaukee's Socialist tradition," and that he would create a city-owned public bank as an alternative to big corporate banks. Not sure Kissell has any authority to do that under the US Constitution, WI State Constitution or Milwaukee City Charter, but who cares?

    He also said he would speak out against "the fairy tales of free enterprise." He says that voters should pick him because "we need to rebuild a left in Milwaukee." Don't mind that Milwaukee County is the second most-liberal county in the state, after Dane County where Madison, the state capitol and university are located.

    Yes, Milwaukee residents, Rick Kissell could be the guy you vote to be in charge of your property taxes.

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    Re: The 2012 Election Thread

    Santorum believes that Democrats are the devil's spawn, apparently.

    If you haven't followed the news all day, Drudge (who is very pro-Romney) has dug up a speech from 2008 that Santorum gave at Ava Maria University in Florida (a Catholic Jesuit university). Drudge is alleging that Santorum said:

    (some highlights)

    This is a spiritual war. And the Father of Lies has his sights on what you would think the Father of Lies would have his sights on: a good, decent, powerful, influential country - the United States of America. If you were Satan, who would you attack in this day and age?

    Satan is attacking the great institutions of America, using those great vices of pride, vanity, and sensuality as the root to attack all of the strong plants that has so deeply rooted in the American tradition.

    He was successful. He attacks all of us, all of our institutions. The place where he was, in my mind, most successful and first successful [sic], was academia. He understood pride of smart people. He attacked them at their weakest, that they were in fact smarter than everybody else. And could come up with something new and different. Pursue new truths. Deny the existance of truths. Play with it, because you're smart. So, academia, along time ago, fell.

    We look at the shape of mainline Protestantism in this country and it is in shambles, it is gone from the world of Christianity as I see it.
    Wow! Satan created liberals and took over all the colleges. Oh yeah, and Protestantism is destroyed. Gee, Rick, that'll get those Baptist votes.

    I have no problem with a religious man running for political office, but when you start implying - no, directly stating that the devil created the political party you oppose, then I think it's time to get the crazy hat out.

    Audio here.

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    Re: The 2012 Election Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Keven View Post

    Yes, Milwaukee residents, Rick Kissell could be the guy you vote to be in charge of your property taxes.


    Aside from the fact I didn't realise that there were any genuine Socialists in the US, and it might (but probably won't) make a few on the Right understand why Obama is not a Socialist, I can't see the problem? He won't get elected. Even if he was, that's what democracy is about. Are you suggesting that people with perfectly legal political arguments should not be able to stand for office just because they're left-wing? Your politics is dull enough already.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Meridian View Post
    Aside from the fact I didn't realise that there were any genuine Socialists in the US
    There are a few. My city Milwaukee was the last major American city who had a Socialist mayor. Frank Zeidler was a member of the Socialist Party and was mayor until 1960. American politics are biased towards the two major parties and I think the Democrats have absorbed what would be the Socialist base.

    Bernie Sanders in the US Senate was a member of the Socialist Party before he was elected to Congress. Now he's officially independent but caucuses with the Democrats.

    Quote Originally Posted by Meridian View Post
    I can't see the problem? He won't get elected. Even if he was, that's what democracy is about. Are you suggesting that people with perfectly legal political arguments should not be able to stand for office just because they're left-wing? Your politics is dull enough already.
    Well, first off, his platform isn't legal. He wants to establish a public bank run by the city when there's no mandate or precedent for that in the city charter. Why does the city need to run a bank when there are a million privately held banks in the country? If you don't want to give your superbank corporation, go to a credit union. Plus, he's running for City Treasurer, not Mayor. I thought the job of the City Treasurer was manage the city's expenses and send out property tax bills. I don't think he has the authority to start a socialized bank without any authorization from the mayor or city council.

    Secondly, I was more or less pointing out the fact that I think he's crazy and disagree with him. He's certainly free to run for whatever he wants.

    Alas, the election is over and Socialist Rick Kissell didn't win.

    Spencer Coggs (Dem) - 12,556 - 41%
    Tim Carpenter (Dem) - 11,722 - 38%
    Dawn Marie Sass (Dem) - 4,573 - 15%
    Rick Kissell (Socialist) - 2,063 - 7%

    Carpenter is the best choice here.
    Last edited by Keven; 02-22-2012 at 03:16 AM.

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    Re: The 2012 Election Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Keven View Post
    Santorum believes that Democrats are the devil's spawn, apparently.

    If you haven't followed the news all day, Drudge (who is very pro-Romney) has dug up a speech from 2008 that Santorum gave at Ava Maria University in Florida (a Catholic Jesuit university). Drudge is alleging that Santorum said:

    (some highlights)



    Wow! Satan created liberals and took over all the colleges. Oh yeah, and Protestantism is destroyed. Gee, Rick, that'll get those Baptist votes.

    I have no problem with a religious man running for political office, but when you start implying - no, directly stating that the devil created the political party you oppose, then I think it's time to get the crazy hat out.

    Audio here.
    Every time I see his name, all I can think of is "Sanitarium."

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