The 2012 Election Thread

[BlackDragon24]

That said, Coulter probably should have left off the "without raising taxes" bit.

Well yeah, its the whole point....and the reason why its BS.

[Dutchcedar]

^^^ The payroll tax cuts are like akin to taking out a six year car loan instead of a two year loan. It fools ya into thinking you're paying less for something when the opposite is true.

And yeah, its stoopid. But it tosses a few morsels to the masses... for now. Let the next pack of leaders deal with it.

[Dutchcedar]

Well yeah, its the whole point....and the reason why its BS.

Yeah, its certainly reason enough for you two to get all wound up in the "liar, liar" game... while thinking Obambi doesn't raise taxes and is somehow or another a balanced budget kinda guy.

[BlackDragon24]

Yeah, its certainly reason enough for you two to get all wound up in the "liar, liar" game... while thinking Obambi doesn't raise taxes and is somehow or another a balanced budget kinda guy.

I don't know how to respond to this other than to say, I don't think Obama doesn't raise taxes and I don't think Obama is a balanced budget guy

[Dutchcedar]

I don't know how to respond to this other than to say, I don't think Obama doesn't raise taxes and I don't think Obama is a balanced budget guy

To your credit then, at least you don't believe what he says.

[otoc]

I don't know how to respond to this other than to say, I don't think Obama doesn't raise taxes and I don't think Obama is a balanced budget guy

I know how to respond. It's a fools debate to justify a direct response towards someone who takes the word "spin" and spins it into "liar" while agreeing coulter shouldn't have said what she said.

And to the young man who continues to throw out personal insults while trying hard to write bad fiction. I could give a shit what you think of me. Frankly I feel the same about your opinion where you invent things to argue about. I voted for rhomney and lived through his results. Your posted article stated he raised no taxes. You wish to argue that a fees, new taxes, loopholes closed that raise taxes, or cut funding that causes a shift to the local level is not raising taxes. Bull. I guess you also missed the reality where conservatives and business attacked him and he folded in your haste to make the conversation something else. Welcome to the Rhomney spin zone where trees are the right height. Eventually he won't have to debate wingnuts and losers and will have to deal with his record.

Speaking of that, no idea where you were going, the first pass of obama's corporate plan is not just about loopholes. But that is hardly about how coulter spins Geez.

[Dutchcedar]

I know how to respond. It's a fools debate to justify a direct response towards someone who takes the word "spin" and spins it into "liar" while agreeing coulter shouldn't have said what she said.

Hey there Mr. "I don't read your posts". How ya doin'?

Let's see who spun liar here.

lol, I didn't think anyone paid attention to Coulter these days. He balanced the budget without raising taxes? Bull.

Semantics again, otoc? Bull means spin, not liar? Yeah, OK, Bucko... maybe in your world. Sounds to me like you were calling Coulter a liar.

And BD:

We are just pointing out that Ann Coulter is a windbag douche. And that the first claim in her article is, well, exaggerated at best and complete and total •••••••• at worst.

I'm sure those black dots weren't something about bulldung (lying), but something like "honesty".

So to be clear, you're just bein' your usual "I didn't say that when I did" self.

[BlackDragon24]

Unfortunately when you ignore somebody, you still see their posts when they are quoted by another forum member.

[Dutchcedar]

Unfortunately when you ignore somebody, you still see their posts when they are quoted by another forum member.

Right. I think I've heard that before... about 328 times.

Its that forum feature that compels people to carry out their passive aggressive behavior through other people.

[tucker]

Nobody is going to buy a new house or buy a new car because Barack Obama, man of the people, added 5% back to their paycheck. But, it's a "tax cut for the middle and lower class" which sounds nice, and the average Joe is pleased to see that $80 back in his paycheck.

That 80 bucks is gone with one tank of gas in Obambi's world of windmills, solar panels and chevy volts.

[Keven]

And to the young man who continues to throw out personal insults while trying hard to write bad fiction. I could give a shit what you think of me. Frankly I feel the same about your opinion where you invent things to argue about.

Uh huh. Okay. I didn't throw the first stone with the personal insults, bud,

[Keven]

I just realized that Romney has three "home states".

Massachusetts - He was the governor, started Bain Capitol.

Michigan - He was raised there, and his father was governor.

Utah - The whole Mormon thing, plus he ran the Olympics.

Kind of weird.

[kbohip]

After reading otoc's post detailing all the "fees" Romney came up with, I'm left wondering why he's not running as a Democrat. He seems perfect for the job! Man, I remember when Republicans used to be against that sort of backhanded secret taxation nonsense. What happened?

[myv65]

After reading otoc's post detailing all the "fees" Romney came up with, I'm left wondering why he's not running as a Democrat. He seems perfect for the job! Man, I remember when Republicans used to be against that sort of backhanded secret taxation nonsense. What happened?

Easy, they came to the same realization as the Democrats. People sit up and take notice when they fill out their state and federal tax forms. Hit them every friggin' day with penny-charges and not so much. When you figure that roughly half our people don't pay federal income taxes, it's amazing that we don't hear more indignation about the loads of fees that nearly *everyone* pays regardless of income level. Off the top of my head I can easily think of a couple dozen "fees" I pay that directly go to government at some level, and many didn't exist ~30 years ago when I started really paying taxes. . .

Both major parties want more of "our" money, so they can spend more money, and both are willing to spend loads that we don't have by jacking up the debt. The only trifling bits that seem to differentiate them are the relative distribution of who pays how much and where they subsequently throw all that cash.

[Keven]

Eric Cantor endorsed Mitt Romney today, a day before Super Tuesday.

Everybody is talking about Cantor as a VP candidate for Romney.