Llano Outperforms Sandy Bridge

[Pc geek]

AMD Fusion Demo Video Leaked - Llano Outperforms Sandy Bridge

http://forums.legitreviews.com/about34092.html

Looks like if your wanting to build a new system you may want to wait!

[AMDScooter]

Well.. apparently for notebooks using integrated graphics anyway.

[Keven]

AMD Fusion Demo Video Leaked - Llano Outperforms Sandy Bridge

http://forums.legitreviews.com/about34092.html

Looks like if your wanting to build a new system you may want to wait!

Wow! Misleading title is misleading. Those leaked videos show just video processing, not overall performance.

That said, this a minor blow to Intel. At Intel's CES press conference, all they talked about was the improved video and transcoding performance in Sandy Bridge. But, considering how AMD Fusion works, I'm not surprised to see it out perform Sandy Bridge in video handling.

[moriarty99]

AMD having better integrated graphics is nothing new, the only surprise would have been the reverse, Intel integrated graphics winning anything. For pure CPU power, Bulldozer will do nicely against i5 Sandy Bridge, but will not seriously threaten i7. But for integrated GPU, Bulldozer better bulldoze SnB or Radeon is not holding it's own anymore for some strange reason. And Radeon holds it's own just fine.

[Activate: AMD]

Wow! Misleading title is misleading. Those leaked videos show just video processing, not overall performance.

That said, this a minor blow to Intel. At Intel's CES press conference, all they talked about was the improved video and transcoding performance in Sandy Bridge. But, considering how AMD Fusion works, I'm not surprised to see it out perform Sandy Bridge in video handling.

a win is a win, and AMD will take it any way they can get it. I don't blame them for that, its just marketing

More wins from the AMD camp means good things for all of us

[John C]

AMD having better integrated graphics is nothing new, the only surprise would have been the reverse, Intel integrated graphics winning anything. For pure CPU power, Bulldozer will do nicely against i5 Sandy Bridge, but will not seriously threaten i7. But for integrated GPU, Bulldozer better bulldoze SnB or Radeon is not holding it's own anymore for some strange reason. And Radeon holds it's own just fine.

The problem with AMD's integrated graphics is that HD-sound over HDMI is piss--poor at best. 2-channel PCM, no bitstreaming of HD-audio. Intel's Sandy Bridge does this, and quite well. (if you dont care about 24p, which is a whole different issue!).
And really, the primary use for integrated graphics, after notebooks, is for HTPC use.

[Activate: AMD]

The problem with AMD's integrated graphics is that HD-sound over HDMI is piss--poor at best. 2-channel PCM, no bitstreaming of HD-audio. Intel's Sandy Bridge does this, and quite well. (if you dont care about 24p, which is a whole different issue!).
And really, the primary use for integrated graphics, after notebooks, is for HTPC use.

Yea, but thats only really an issue for HTPC users..

[AMDScooter]

Yea, but thats only really an issue for HTPC users..

But isn't that what many use integrated graphics for?

[Activate: AMD]

But isn't that what many use integrated graphics for?

nope. maybe on an enthusiast forum.. Intel isn't the number one graphics supplier for nothing. millions of desktops get sold every year with Intel IGP's

[ester212]

I have never seen any intel chip that has worthwhile graphics capabilities ever. It never will happen, it will always be a heap of crap.

Decoding/accelerating 1080p video is like not what I consider "up to par" graphics ability. A 90 dollar blu-ray player for your home theater does that better and is complete with power, wiring, software and all. This is just for corporations and for the "genera" public who always assumes their new bestbuy computer will run like crap soon anyways.

[John C]

The Sandy Bridge integrated graphics are outstanding, with the exception of the 24p bug, which the majority of users would never notice. And AMD/ATI's 24p is nearly as problematic. 1080p is very easy, since it is a progressive format, deinterlacing it not needed. It can take more processing power to view a non-progressive SD DVD, than a blu-ray disc.

[Activate: AMD]

The Sandy Bridge integrated graphics are outstanding, with the exception of the 24p bug, which the majority of users would never notice. And AMD/ATI's 24p is nearly as problematic. 1080p is very easy, since it is a progressive format, deinterlacing it not needed. It can take more processing power to view a non-progressive SD DVD, than a blu-ray disc.

I wouldn't say "outstanding".. certainly not relative to Llano. They're "passable" and "a big step forward". I'm happy with my HD3000 on my laptop, but then I just use it for 1080p decode and maybe a tiny smidgen of low-res gaming. But they're definitely worse than llano and have poor driver support