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    Water cooling guide for noobs

    Water Cooling Guide
    By Juggalo23451
    Video explanation link as well as where to get wc parts below the tutorial


    Well I have been water cooling for a lil over 2 yrs now so I would figure I would help and make a guide. So let's get started

    What is water cooling. More or less it is the same way how your car's radiator works to cool your engine except on a smaller scale .

    Do not mix metals
    You can have
    copper, nickel, brass, stainless steel in the same loop
    If you have any metal like this do not use something that is aluminum. Doing so will cause Galvanic corrosion which is very bad

    How much is it going to cost me- Depends on what you want to cool. The average coast for a cpu only loop is generally around 200-$$$. It will cost more if you want to add graphics cards, mosfets and etc. there is no real reason to water cool your ram,hdd. I don't see the point of water cooling your north bridge/south bridge either all it does is add restriction to your loop.If you want better temps on your chipset remove the old thermal paste with 90% Isopropyl alcohol or higher. Use a q-tip for this or a micro fiber cloth. Then put on new thermal paste like the ones listed below. but if you are going for insane overclocks go for it

    What parts are needed? I will tell you the parts and suggest some parts as well.


    Tubing and lingo you may see(get 10ft for cpu only,15ft or more if adding more rads blocks and etc

    The most common sizes for tubing for water cooling are
    3/8 inch
    7/16 inch-people use this size tubing on 1/2 barbs for a tighter fit/seal
    1/2 inch
    Lingo
    ID= Inner diameter
    OD= Outer diameter
    Primochill,tygon, masterkleer (budget)
    Use tub cutters, razor or scissors to cut the tubing.


    Dyes
    Do not use any dyes or additives. If you want color get colored tubing

    Reservoir ( always higher then the pump)- holds water

    For reses it is all about preference really, You have the Swiftech Micro revision res for like 20 bucks or you could spend up to 200 bucks on a res to.

    Pump(always below the res)

    check instructions to make sure you know where the inlet is and outlet- This is the whole heart of you water cooling loop. Pushes the water in you loop around. Getting the right pump is critical don't get the right pump may get poor flow in your loop/poor temps to. They are usually measured by gph(gallons per hour) The more gph the better.
    MCP355,MCP655, OCZ hydro flow(budget),jingway,
    Note: The mcp355(has 3/8 barbs) is slightly better than the mcp655(1/2 barbs)

    Pump top
    -

    Dont want to use 3/8 barbs on a mcp355 get a top and choose what ever barb or compression fitting you like. Getting a op will help maximize the efficiency of the pump.
    (XSPC,EK)

    Water Blocks(center is always the inlet)

    There are great water blocks out there for the CPU and Gpus. If you are going for the absolute best one out there. Then the EK HF is the king right now. Ek is also the best for gpus as well.
    XSPC Rasa water block(budget) this block is behind the ek hf by 3 degrees. XSPC for gpus as well.

    Thermal Paste-

    MX3, MX4, OCZ Freeze, Shin Etsu, Indigo Extreme(the best but really expensive)

    Barbs-

    you will see g1/4 and g3/8. That is simply the thread size. What size barbs you get will depict on what size tubing you would want.
    bitspower, enzotech,koolance
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    Re: Water cooling guide for noobs

    Compression fittings- Makes you loop look cleaner.

    Has two parts the barb and a collar. The collar goes on the tubing first. Then mount the tubing on the barb. Screw down collar all the way.(video below) make sure to get the same id and od fittings as your tubing


    Radiators(removes heat from you loop)-

    inlet/outlet does not mater
    Depending on what you want to cool will depend on the size of rad you want
    Example a 240 radiators can cool most cpus., 360 rad for cpu and a gpu
    Best rad right now is the GTX series radiators by Hw labs(loud setup)
    Best rad(low noise) RX series rads by XSPC or SR-1 rad by HW labs
    Budget rad Xspc rs.
    P.s You can use a 77 Bonneville rad I believe if you wanted to.


    Fans(removes heat from the rad) and static pressure

    What is static pressure. It is the measurement of air to be push through a restrictive object. So the better the static pressure the better the fan for your radiator.

    Panaflo,delata, Kazes 120x120x38 are great for rads like the GTX
    Gentle typhoons (AP-15) are great for rad like the Sr-1 and RX series rads. Why you ask the noise to cfm is great and it has good static pressure as well.
    Yate Loons are a great budget fan


    Fan Controller
    (controls the rpms of a fan)

    Want to quiet down your set up getting a fan controller can help with that

    Clamps (secure them in the center of the barb)-

    use clamps, zips, or worm clamps to secure your tubing

    Coolant- Distilled water is all you need.
    Pt nuke as well to prevent growth in your loop

    / or just get a
    silver coil.
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    Re: Water cooling guide for noobs

    I have all the parts now what?

    1. Loop order, I usually do res-pump-rad-cpu-res for example, but you do not have to do that order just make sure you have the res before the pump

    2. Bust out a scratch piece of paper and pen. Draw a rectangle representing you case then. Draw another rectangle representing your mb. Location is key for a water cooling loop.
    Draw some sketches on how you want your loop to go.

    3. Mount everything up.

    4. Start from one point in your wc loop.with the tubing attached to a barb,
    take the excess and move it to the next point to your loop then cut.(Attach tubing)Repeat the process until you are done.

    5. Take out loop of you case(up to you)

    6. Hook the pump to your power supply(make sure nothing else is
    hooked up to the psu)

    7. Take a paper clip and put it in the green wire and connect any black wire. this will create a load to turn on your psu. Make sure the psu unplugged before doing this.

    8. Fill up the res with distilled water all the way to the top with a funnel

    9. Turn on the psu let the water go to about have way then refill the res.

    10. repeat the process again until you do not need to fill the res up any more

    Bubbles- To get rid of bubbles tilt your case side to side, back and forward
    Leak testing- I say a good 8-12hrs should be enough. You can do more if you would like.

    Hook up everything/install wc loop if outside of case and enjoy your temps

    Vids
    Water cooling basics
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xklgv4W9gFU
    How to set up and install a water cooling loop 4 parts
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qUqkX-3ut4
    Compression fitting
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMg8Nqb0gc8

    Water Cooling Cases
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ciepz2O3QkA


    Dont feel like going custom get a XSPC Rasa Kit

    Here is some info that you guys/gals may find help full on your water cooling adventure. Credit goes to skinnieelabs,Martin120, and bundymania
    rad comparison
    The Higher the Better the rad is.

    Pump comparison
    The higher the better

    Mcp355 top comparison


    Cpu blocks, The lower the better

    Credit goes to martin








    If any additional help is need please feel free to pm me or ask a question here
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    Re: Water cooling guide for noobs

    Good stuff! The hardware has moved along quite a bit since I built my system, except for the pumps.

    I built my loop to try to get my AMD 3700 to 3Ghz. Didn't make it but had a lot of fun. I am using the same parts on my 6 core running 24/7 100% as well as my GPU, nV460@ 894Mhz(same 24/7 100%).
    My set up cost about the same $200 years ago, and I have moved it from system to system. I am still happy with the performance though most of the parts are not on juggalo's list.
    A good water system does not go obsolete, so tho the buy in price is a little high, it can be used over and over again. The block makers periodically make new clamping systems for them to keep them up to date.

    There is a water cooling proverb. Price ,performance, size. Pick 2 out of 3.

    7/16" tubing gives the same performance as 1/2". The fittings are most of the restriction in 1/2 inch. 7/16 bends a little better (tighter radius).

    Chipset coolers like gpu coolers are quite low in restriction but as said above not really needed and add complication to the loop.

    A reservoir is not really needed. I use a T-line to fill and bleed.

    Coolant, I add water wetter and some use a low dose of antifreeze. Water wetter reduces surface tension and viscosity for a little performance boost, anti freeze is a good anti corrosive and both inhibit organic growths. As said above always distilled water.

    Never start pump dry, that can kill it in seconds.

    Never get acrlic parts. They will crack by themselves if exposed to anti-freeze and other chemicals, and are vulnerable to breaking at anytime.

    The new top for the 355 pump is a good thing (if not acrylic ) as it moves the input directly into the center increasing the performance (still can't figure out why the haven't made the change at the factory) There are probably others and you can do it yourself with epoxy and a pipe fitting if you are handy. (also can't figure out how the 355 is better then my bigger 655, but I won't complain as my 655 has been running all these years)

    Big rads make for quieter fans but are not mandatory. but at least 2x120 ( I run a ThermoChill 180 which has served me well although a quiet optimized rad, rather than performance optimized.

    Jaggalo meant a Bonneville (or any 70's GM) heater core. Not really very good nowadays, but was used a lot before purpose made rads were available. They are much better.

    Happy water cooling!!
    Last edited by TheGlasMan; 10-04-2011 at 07:42 AM.


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    Re: Water cooling guide for noobs

    chipsets has the biggest restriction
    The mcp355 and mcp655 perform about the same.
    mcp355 comes out on top because of the head pressure. mcp655 comes close cause of the gph
    I dont use any additives other than pt nuke. no anti freeze, no water wetter. I see no reason for it.
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    Re: Water cooling guide for noobs

    more info added
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    Re: Water cooling guide for noobs

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGlasMan View Post
    Never get acrlic parts. They will crack by themselves if exposed to anti-freeze and other chemicals, and are vulnerable to breaking at anytime.
    Just wanted to emphasize how important this point is. My first water cooling setup a decade ago ended in disaster when the acrylic top on my cpu block cracked while I was at work. Water of course leaked out and dripped all over the mobo and graphics card. I wasn't even using any chemicals or anti-freeze in my loop either.

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    Re: Water cooling guide for noobs

    Quote Originally Posted by kbohip View Post
    Just wanted to emphasize how important this point is. My first water cooling setup a decade ago ended in disaster when the acrylic top on my cpu block cracked while I was at work. Water of course leaked out and dripped all over the mobo and graphics card. I wasn't even using any chemicals or anti-freeze in my loop either.
    I have acrylic reservoirs no issues
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    Re: Water cooling guide for noobs

    Quote Originally Posted by Juggalo3451 View Post
    I have acrylic reservoirs no issues
    A reservoir I wouldn't worry about as much. Having acrylic on the top of the cpu block though is ill advised.

    Btw Juggalo, forgot to mention earlier. Awesome thread!

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    Re: Water cooling guide for noobs

    Quote Originally Posted by kbohip View Post
    A reservoir I wouldn't worry about as much. Having acrylic on the top of the cpu block though is ill advised.

    Btw Juggalo, forgot to mention earlier. Awesome thread!
    yeah I dont get anything that has a acrylic top for cpu or gpu.
    Guess what more info added
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    Re: Water cooling guide for noobs

    The trick to anything acrylic is that there's no stress on any tapped holes put on them by the fittings and tubing. Its reduced a bunch if the acrylic is thicker.

    Its obviously not as "safe" as delrin or metal, but sometimes ya wanna see through somethin'... or save some money.

    It was a big concern back we were using pipe threads, but with all the straight threaded o-ring stuff... things are much, much better.

    I'm amazed how far this has all come. I'm redoing a system... a watercooled dual Xeon rig that has run 24/7 without a leak and with the original fluids for seven years... and when I went shopping for this and that, I was taken back with all the high quality, easy to use stuff out there. Its like shopping for candy.

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    Re: Water cooling guide for noobs

    updated cpu water block comparison
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    Re: Water cooling guide for noobs

    I like this thread. It reminds me of the old days of AMDMB.com when we were all doing the most extreme stuff we could with our pc's such as custom water cooling. So much more relaxing than talking about politics for a change.

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