Occupy Wall Street

[Enmore]

Silly hippies; They should be outside the White House, Congress and the other centres of national government - the ones who connived in this whole mess and allowed it to happen.

[BlackDragon24]

After arguing with baseball fans all night on baseball message boards about the Cardinals, I think I need a vacation from message boards. It's not good for my heart. Internet message boards are serious business, stressing me out, my blood pressure must be through the moon.

I often disappear from this place for weeks/months at a time. Good to take a break. Heck jimzinsocal took about a 2 year break and now he's back with a vengeance!!!

Enjoy yourself, whatever you do.

[otoc]

The concept of hippies is so 70s and inaccurate based on the variety of people seen attending.

More on a true grassroots movement....

Occupy Boston protesters ask Bernanke to visit

BOSTON (FOX 25 / MyFoxBoston.com) - Occupy Boston protesters are hoping to have a visitor of their own.
The Boston Herald is reporting they're going to be calling on the chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank to make a visit to Dewey Square.
Ben Bernanke will be at the Federal Reserve's offices across from the camp Tuesday.
Protesters have previously spoken out against the Fed, but they say there will be no confrontation. They're hoping to have an open dialogue with Bernanke.

Read more: http://www.myfoxboston.com/dpp/news/...#ixzz1b8ACypXP

Dr. Cornel West honors Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. by going to jail

“We will not allow this day of the Martin Luther King, Jr. Memorial to go without somebody going to jail.” After speaking those words on the steps of the U.S. Supreme Court, Princeton University professor Dr. Cornel West was arrested.

Philosopher Cornel West (C) stops to talk to demonstrators from the Occupy Wall Street campaign in Zucotti Park near the financial district of New York September 29, 2011. (LUCAS JACKSON - REUTERS)


The Supreme Court was a fitting venue for this demonstration both to honor Dr. King and demonstrate solidarity with the #OWS (Occupy Wall Street) movement. As Dr. West, author of Race Matters, Democracy Matters and a new memoir, Brother West: Living and Loving Out Loud, said prior to being arrested, there is “a relation between corporate greed and what goes on too often in Supreme Court decisions.”
In Democracy Matters, West makes this point in far greater detail “(The) illicit marriage of corporate and political elites-so blatant and flagrant in our time-not only undermines the trust of informed citizens in those who rule over them. It also promotes the pervasive sleepwalking of the populace, who see that the false prophets are handsomely rewarded with money, status, and access to more power.” (p. 4)
Here’s the point: If you are content to think that corporations are people and money is speech, as the Supreme Court decided in the by a vote of 5-4, in their Citizens United v Federal Election Commission decision, then indeed you are sleepwalking through your citizenship and giving over your faith to false prophets.
I believe, when future accounts of this era are written, historians will judge that the wake up call for many people in America was in early 2010 with that Supreme Court decision. The winter of 2010 is what led to the #OWS demonstrations in the fall of 2011.
Can we as citizens accept this definition of person, and of speech? This is what Dr. West, by his action on the steps of the Supreme Court, is asking us to stop and ponder. Corporation as person? A soulless legal entity as human being? No. We can’t and we must not. As I have written before, God didn’t create corporations.
In his by now-famous dissent to the “Citizens United v Federal Election Commission,” ruling, Justice John Paul Stevens made this very clear:
“It might also be added that corporations have no consciences, no beliefs, no feelings, no thoughts, no desires. Corporations help structure and facilitate the activities of human beings, to be sure, and their “personhood” often serves as a useful legal fiction. But they are not themselves members of “We the People” by whom and for whom our Constitution was established.”
This is the issue that unites the #occupy rallies; corporations are not those for whom the Constitution was written and they cannot be those whom it protects with the rights owed to citizens who actually are “We the people.” There is a deep anger among people who are protesting at these rallies as illustrated by a picture circulating on my Facebook page of a sign at #OWS. It reads, “I’ll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one.” This theme resonates over and over again in other signs at #occupy rallies: ‘Corporations aren’t people.’”
But Dr. West did not call for anger, he actually called for “deep love” in his remarks before his arrest, and he spoke his solidarity even with the police, those who were about to arrest him.
This is worthy of another jail, at another time. In 1963, Dr. King wrote, in his Letter from Birmingham Jail,

“I am in Birmingham because injustice is here ...I am cognizant of the interrelatedness of all communities and states. I cannot sit idly by in Atlanta and not be concerned about what happens in Birmingham. Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. We are caught in an inescapable network of mutuality, tied in a single garment of destiny. Whatever affects one directly affects all indirectly.”

Part of that letter is one of the fourteen inscriptions on the wall surrounding the new King Memorial: “Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. We are caught in an inescapable network of mutuality, tied in a single garment of destiny.”
Perhaps Dr. West would say he was on the steps of the Supreme Court for the same reason. According to his Web site, he spent Sunday night, October 16, “behind bars. He has been ordered to appear in court Monday at 1pm est to answer charges of trespassing on the steps of the Supreme Court.”
Another jail, another time, but the same issue: justice.

[smoked trout]

On the points that corporations should not be granted the same rights as people, that money should not be equated to free speech, and that High Finance got off way too easy I can agree with the OWS crowd.

We drive by the local Occupy Missoula campout (at the court house) every day on the way home from school. My 10 year old daughter wants to interview them for a school project to see what they're protesting, and I think it would be a good excercise for her. I'll let the wife take her though, and get their impressions as I'm too busy working

[Dutchcedar]

^^^ That would be an interesting project for her.

Doug Shoen had a couple hundred of them interviewed and came up with some interesting stuff about them.

One thing he discovered that's interesting for this political movement...

Fewer than one in three (32%) call themselves Democrats, while roughly the same proportion (33%) say they aren't represented by any political party.

Makes ya wonder what parties the other 35% belong to.

[smoked trout]

Knowing this town I'd guess Green Party

I need to come up with a couple of questions I'd like her to ask these folks. She's basically interested in what they're protesting, and will ask that. Right now she thinks it's 'jobs', I told her that's a very small part of it (if any).

So I'm thinking she should ask:
1) Do you and will you vote?

2) What would be the number one thing you would change if given the chance?

I don't want her to get bogged down in political affiliations, etc, but would like her to hear their ideas so we can discuss them.

And maybe she can help me figure out what it is these folks are up to! Otherwise, I'm just too busy to be bothered...

[otoc]

On the points that corporations should not be granted the same rights as people, that money should not be equated to free speech, and that High Finance got off way too easy I can agree with the OWS crowd.

That's my thought too. I don't get why more don't see it that way.

[tucker]

That's my thought too. I don't get why more don't see it that way.

Because they are more than the parts you agree with…

More than anything else I think this is a social movement. It’s comprised of the 25-30% of the country that is hardcore Marxists and communists. They have no goals other than the destruction of capitalism and free enterprise.

At first glance like all freak shows they were a little bit interesting but interest is a fleeting thing. Now they're strictly in the rolleyes category and not to be taken seriously. Without the coverage from the mainstream media and support from high ranking democrats they would be just another New York City side show.

This country isn’t ready for marxism or communism they might as well go piss up a rope.

[otoc]

Because they are more than the parts you agree with…

More than anything else I think this is a social movement. It’s comprised of the 25-30% of the country that is hardcore Marxists and communists. They have no goals other than the destruction of capitalism and free enterprise.

At first glance like all freak shows they were a little bit interesting but interest is a fleeting thing. Now they're strictly in the rolleyes category and not to be taken seriously. Without the coverage from the mainstream media and support from high ranking democrats they would be just another New York City side show.

This country isn’t ready for marxism or communism they might as well go piss up a rope.

From where do you get this, Fox and Alex Jones? I read a concern from OWS blogs about being influenced by socialist factions due to their increasing popularity, but nothing in regards to embracing socialism. And nothing about communists.

It's funny that Fox is now posturing that the media is furthering OWS as if their FNC Tea Party events never happened. Hypocrites.

[otoc]

priceless...

Donald Trump: Obama should put a stop to Occupy Wall Street protests

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories...#ixzz1b9yeAM2L

[AMDScooter]

Felons with rifles & ammo... rapists... theives... flashers and dudes sh*tting on police cruisers. Can you imagine if any of this happened at a TP event? And they called the TP radical... lol. Careful what u wish for BD.

FELON WITH RIFLE & AMMO Arrested at Obama-Endorsed Occupy Seattle… Oh, and a Serial Exposer Was Arrested, Too

Obama-Endorsed Occupy Cleveland Protester Kidnapped and Raped

What a Shock! Far Left #OWS Goons Say Stealing Is Biggest Problem

[tucker]

Silly hippies; They should be outside the White House, Congress and the other centres of national government - the ones who connived in this whole mess and allowed it to happen.

Bullseye you win Kewpie doll...

[/\/\adGamer]

ya these folks are real relevant if you can complete watching this freak show without pouring gas on yourself and lighting the match your stronger than me

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=MxupmU4cJOE

[tucker]

From where do you get this, Fox and Alex Jones? I read a concern from OWS blogs about being influenced by socialist factions due to their increasing popularity, but nothing in regards to embracing socialism. And nothing about communists.

It's funny that Fox is now posturing that the media is furthering OWS as if their FNC Tea Party events never happened. Hypocrites.

Hey dude I call em as I see em…

Based on interviews with members of the OWS crowd and from what I read and see in places other than MSM.

My claims have just as much basis in fact as your claims about the Tea Party. If you’re looking for hypocrites and liars in the media you might start with MSM. If you're looking for liars and hypocrites in politics your might start with your Messiah.

[/\/\adGamer]

^^^^ /\/\adgamer waves fingers lol