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  1. #226
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    Re: ObamaCare vs. the Catholic Church

    Well, the Catholic Church will ultimately end up suing the federal government over this. It will be another part of ObamaCare which will go to the Supreme Court, and considering the Roberts' Court and their history of a strict interpretation of Constitutionality, I expect them to strike it down.

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    Re: ObamaCare vs. the Catholic Church

    The contraception for prevention of other medical conditions is a red herring if ever there was one.

    I'd compare it to legitimate uses of marijuana. Yeah, smokin' some weed is awesome for some people with cancer going through chemotherapy and its supposed to be good for glaucoma.

    So, should we, as a society, all pay into the pot to pay for the pot for the people who can benefit from the pot? If so, should we then pay into the pot for all the people who want to use pot for other "medicinal purposes"?

    Look, I just got back from the pub, so this may sound convoluted, but how is the logic any different from saying Miss Fluke's friend got ovarian problems because her pills weren't free, so all pills should be free for all women and therefor, ye suckers who disagree must pay for 'em?

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    Re: ObamaCare vs. the Catholic Church

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutchcedar View Post
    The contraception for prevention of other medical conditions is a red herring if ever there was one.

    I'd compare it to legitimate uses of marijuana. Yeah, smokin' some weed is awesome for some people with cancer going through chemotherapy and its supposed to be good for glaucoma.

    So, should we, as a society, all pay into the pot to pay for the pot for the people who can benefit from the pot? If so, should we then pay into the pot for all the people who want to use pot for other "medicinal purposes"?

    Look, I just got back from the pub, so this may sound convoluted, but how is the logic any different from saying Miss Fluke's friend got ovarian problems because her pills weren't free, so all pills should be free for all women and therefor, ye suckers who disagree must pay for 'em?
    I find that pc gaming helps to lower my blood pressure, therefore leading to less chance of heart conditions. I think it's high time the gov buys me Mass Effect 3!

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    Re: ObamaCare vs. the Catholic Church

    Quote Originally Posted by kbohip View Post
    I find that pc gaming helps to lower my blood pressure, therefore leading to less chance of heart conditions. I think it's high time the gov buys me Mass Effect 3!
    I would agree with that. Some would argue if it weren't for the outlet found in violent video games, firearms, and pyrotechnics - I would become a mass murderer. (see sig)

    May 15th Obama, I expect my copy of Diablo III to be delivered. Fund me a new PC while you're at it!
    Nuke em'.

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    Re: ObamaCare vs. the Catholic Church

    Quote Originally Posted by kbohip View Post
    I find that pc gaming helps to lower my blood pressure, therefore leading to less chance of heart conditions. I think it's high time the gov buys me Mass Effect 3!
    Sounds about right. Though.. you cannot play ME3 without a darn good PC and an interwebby connection. How about instead of $10k for a piece of sh*t Chebby Volt they pay all us gamers that same amount for a killer custom gaming rig from Jimz enterprises and high speed internet?

    Same logic applies. I'm prepping my congressional testimony.. it will go sumtin' like this:

    "Every time I go to Fry's I look around and see the suffering on the faces of all those people under duress because they are not able to afford a tri-fire 7970 rig to play ME3 on....."

    "The most dangerous myth is the demagoguery that business can be made to pay a larger share, thus relieving the individual. Politicians preaching this are either deliberately dishonest, or economically illiterate, and either one should scare us...
    Only people pay taxes, and people pay as consumers every tax that is assessed against a business."


    -The Gipper


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    Re: ObamaCare vs. the Catholic Church

    Quote Originally Posted by AMDScooter View Post
    Sounds about right. Though.. you cannot play ME3 without a darn good PC and an interwebby connection. How about instead of $10k for a piece of sh*t Chebby Volt they pay all us gamers that same amount for a killer custom gaming rig from Jimz enterprises and high speed internet?

    Same logic applies. I'm prepping my congressional testimony.. it will go sumtin' like this:

    "Every time I go to Fry's I look around and see the suffering on the faces of all those people under duress because they are not able to afford a tri-fire 7970 rig to play ME3 on....."

    Anybody who disagrees is just declaring war on gamers.

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    Re: ObamaCare vs. the Catholic Church

    I love Ann Coulter.

    http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/20...html#read_more

    Bolded just two favorite lines that made me laugh out loud.

    Did I miss the deadline for alternative opinions on Sandra Fluke?

    What with liberal women constantly talking about their vaginas suddenly pretending to be offended by the word "slut," and conservatives pretending to be as pussified as liberals about the nasty names they've been called, I never got an answer to the most pressing question about Sandra Fluke: Who are you again?

    Was Fluke dragged out of obscurity after the women of America took a vote and chose her as our spokeswoman? Please, Sandra, we know how deeply private, publicity-shy and terribly busy with law school you are, but we need you to speak for us!

    I don't think that happened. Rather, Fluke is the latest in a long line of my absolute favorite liberal typology: hysterical drama queens.

    From Murphy Brown to the Jersey Girls, Cindy Sheehan, Joe Wilson and the New School's Jean Rohe, these fantasists inject themselves into a boiling-hot public debate and then claim victim status when anyone criticizes them.

    At least since I've been keeping score, liberals had their first brush with the dark night of fascism in 1992, when Dan Quayle said of a fictional TV character: "It doesn't help matters when prime-time TV has Murphy Brown ... mocking the importance of fathers by bearing a child alone and calling it just another lifestyle choice."

    Suddenly, it was 1939 Germany and multimillionaire Hollywood elites were the Jews.

    At the Emmy Awards ceremony that year, the creator of "Murphy Brown," Diane English, took the occasion to say: "I would like to thank our sponsors for hanging in there when it was getting really dangerous."

    Really dangerous? You want "really dangerous"? Try being a pedestrian crossing Ocean Avenue in Santa Monica when Diane English is being driven to the airport! (A year earlier, English's husband mowed down the matriarch of Santa Monica's Chez Jay, killing her, while driving his wife to the airport.)


    Marge Tabankin, executive director of the Hollywood Women's Political Committee, said: "The community feels targeted. It's created a chill and fear reminiscent of the '50s. Let's face it: We feel we're being used as whipping boys."

    Yes, Hollywood liberals have got balls to spare, and that's why I admire them so much.

    But the Academy Award winners of liberal martyrdom are the Dixie Chicks. In 2003, Chick Natalie Maines sucked up to a Bush-hating London audience by saying, "Just so you know, we're ashamed the president of the United States is from Texas."

    What an odd coincidence that the only city Maines attacked Bush in was London! In a way, it was lucky for the band that, in their entire 60-city world tour, Maines claimed to be embarrassed by Bush only in London and not, say, Lubbock, Texas.

    But at least we had heard of Murphy Brown and the Dixie Chicks before they demanded we all stand in awe of their raw courage.

    Fluke was an absolute nobody who simply thrust herself into the limelight. She's more the Jean Rohe iteration of the liberal drama queen.

    Rohe, you will recall, was the student speaker at the 2006 New School commencement proceedings, who bravely insulted the official speaker, Sen. John McCain.

    As Rohe described her decision to attack the invited speaker, every person she talked to the day before the ceremony hated McCain with blind fury. At two graduation ceremonies a day earlier, attacks on McCain brought wild cheers from the audience.

    Rohe's resolve to tell the audience what it wanted to hear was only hardened when she was told there would be media at the event.

    Sensing that fake heroism was within her grasp, Rohe explained: "It was something I didn't want to do, but knew I had to out of an obligation to my own values" -- such as the value of being popular, of getting a standing ovation and of being praised for her courage.

    Liberals' idea of questioning authority is to check with the authorities to see if a "Question Authority" bumper sticker would be popular.

    So, back to Fluke: Who is she, and how did she become the spokesperson for American womanhood? If we're allowed to submit names, I think we can do better than a Georgetown law student whose claim to fame is that she belongs to a college club on "reproductive justice."

    Pursuing a typical path to liberal heroics, Fluke was an utter nobody whom the Democrats substituted in a last-minute witness-switch to testify about contraception -- as if her haircut isn't birth control enough -- at a hearing on "religious liberty."

    Despite her credentials as a heretofore unheard-of "birth control activist," the Oversight and Government Reform Committee declined to accept this 11th-hour witness on the grounds that Fluke did not have appropriate credentials for any congressional hearing, much less one on religious liberty.

    That was the Republicans' first foray into "silencing" Fluke's "voice."

    Nancy Pelosi used an even less appropriate committee to ensure that Fluke's "voice" would be heard -- the Democrats' Steering and Policy Committee, the normal function of which is to give House Democrats committee assignments.

    One longtime Democratic operative admitted privately that Fluke was the least-qualified witness ever to appear before a congressional committee.

    As a result of the huge commotion the Democrats' made of Fluke's "testimony," she was ridiculed the same way people in ridiculous situations often are. She was called some mean names: "slut," "prostitute," "law student" ...

    In full indignation, Fluke said her critics were trying "to silence women's voices." She said this on ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, CNN, NPR and a number of other national media outlets.

    Thus, Fluke became a liberal hero even braver than an actress standing up for abortion rights in front of a Bill Maher audience.

    President Obama called Fluke and told her that her parents should be proud of her and to make sure she was OK. Hillary Clinton said conservatives were trying to control women. Bill Clinton called her to see if she had any plans for the weekend.

    (Fluke seems to be holding up wonderfully under the nightmare of constant TV appearances. In fact, if I didn't know better, I'd think she's enjoying herself tremendously.)

    I don't care what liberals believe. Just please stop telling me they're courageous for saying exactly what every non-Fox media outlet in America is dying to hear, or I'll throw up harder than Rick Santorum did when he read John F. Kennedy's speech.

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    Re: ObamaCare vs. the Catholic Church

    Quote Originally Posted by Keven View Post
    I love Ann Coulter.

    http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/20...html#read_more

    Bolded just two favorite lines that made me laugh out loud.
    Hysterical drama queen? Takes one to know one Ann.

    But it was funny in a Bill Maher sort of way....like the conservative "new rules" segment.

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