New Build: Current SB or Wait for Ivy?

[Activate: AMD]

Its initial group of motherboards WILL BE very expensive, I am right in this regard.

time will tell

[AMDScooter]

IB will also have a "K" series of chips, I had heard different but have done some digging.

So IB "K" series will likely OC even more efficiently.

Its initial group of motherboards WILL BE very expensive, I am right in this regard.

Actually IIRC IB is less tolerant to higher V's so SB could be a better chip for OC'ing.

[Mountain Mania]

Actually IIRC IB is less tolerant to higher V's so SB could be a better chip for OC'ing.

Core voltage is important, but it isn't everything to be considered for OC potential. A 3.5 Ghz IB has hit 7 Ghz! A 100% overclock.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/other/d...e_to_7GHz.html

[AMDScooter]

Core voltage is important, but it isn't everything to be considered for OC potential. A 3.5 Ghz IB has hit 7 Ghz! A 100% overclock.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/other/d...e_to_7GHz.html

I don't equate LN2 and the like to what most OC'ers will experience. Time will tell in the case of IB. But SB is a known good overclocker with a great track record already using off the shelf cooling.

[Activate: AMD]

Actually IIRC IB is less tolerant to higher V's so SB could be a better chip for OC'ing.

The reduction in voltage and voltage tolerance has always been the case when transitioning between process nodes. It also means that smaller vcore jumps have a larger impact and consequently the vcore increases that used to be safe can now be dangerously high. Obviously we can't know until the information becomes more widely available, but I have every confidence that IB overclocking will at least match SB.

[AMDScooter]

The reduction in voltage and voltage tolerance has always been the case when transitioning between process nodes. It also means that smaller vcore jumps have a larger impact and consequently the vcore increases that used to be safe can now be dangerously high. Obviously we can't know until the information becomes more widely available, but I have every confidence that IB overclocking will at least match SB.

Yup.. I sure it OC's like a beast. But IMHO SB has set the bar pretty high.

[chrispycrunch]

The i5-2500k was on the 'special' over up in the north of the border at $189 so i decided not to wait for IB. I hope to get a 4ghz oc but all i use is adobe flash/surfing and photoshop 1/month!

[Octavean]

The i5-2500k was on the 'special' over up in the north of the border at $189 so i decided not to wait for IB. I hope to get a 4ghz oc but all i use is adobe flash/surfing and photoshop 1/month!

What motherboard are you using?

I bought my Sandy Bridge Core i5 2500K and Asus P8P67 Pro about the day the hardware first went on sale. So I eventually RMAed my motherboard for a 3.0 version and Asus gave me a free set of ear buds too (great pair). I bought my combo deal at Microcenter though. The Core i5 2500K was ~$179.99 USD and the Asus P8P67 Pro was ~$159.99. At Microcenter, ~$179.99 for the Core i5 2500K was the every day prices since release and the Asus P8P67 Pro was typically ~$189.99. My total out the door was about ~$340 not including tax.

Microcenter just dropped the price of the Sandy Bridge-E Core i7 3930k from ~$599.99 to ~$499.99. So now its $500 down from $600. The choice between SBE and IB just got a little harder for me. I’m still thinking of getting an IB Core i7 3770K / Z77 motherboard with a video card (GTX560 Ti or HD 7850) but a ~$100 drop on the 6 core IBE Core i7 3930K does turn my head a little.

[30'06]

Hi, OP here. I should have said that I will not be overclocking so if this adds to my original inquiry so much the better. I have never done it before and honestly as much as I like building systems, etc., I don't see myself as an enthusiast when it comes to overclocking. I hope I am not committing blasphemy.

[PandaZ3]

I did build my FX4170 system, not OC'd, but it is "Sweet Hot Petunias" fast...I like it.

[Octavean]

I’ve been asking myself the same question Sandy Bridge or Ivy Bridge (with a side of Sandy Bridge-E).

I was about set on a Ivy Bridge Core i7 3770K and Asus P8Z77-V Deluxe. However, Microcenter just dropped the price of the Sandy Bridge Core i7 2600K to ~$200 USD and I think that might be too good to pass-up on. The best price I would expect for the Ivy Bridge Core i7 3770K would be about ~$279.99 from Microcenter with a bit of luck (same price the 2600K hit Microcenter at on release).

Looking at the preview at Anandtech, the Sandy Bridge-E Core i7 3930K (~$500), Sandy Bridge-E Core i7 3820 (~$279), Ivy Bridge Core i7 3770 (~$??? - to - ~$320), Sandy Bridge Core i7 2600K (~$200) were all fairly closely grouped together in the benchmarks.

So I think I’ll probably just go with a Sandy Bridge Core i7 2600K and Asus P8Z77-V Deluxe. I may also add a 240GB SSD from Corsair or Mushkin and a GTX560 Ti or HD 7850,….

[30'06]

@Octavean - Any other motherboards you had an eye on that you thought would be good choices as well? Thanks.

[richardd43]

I hope to get a 4ghz oc but all i use is adobe flash/surfing and photoshop 1/month!

Mine runs at 4.3G with a simple overclock all day long with no problems.

[Octavean]

@Octavean - Any other motherboards you had an eye on that you thought would be good choices as well? Thanks.

I was looking at the Asus Sabertooth Z77 as well,.....its about ~$239 USD at Newegg, whereas the Asus P8Z77-V Deluxe is about ~$289.

***edit***

Damn, the Microcenter price for the Sandy Bridge Core i7 2600K went from ~$199.99 back up to ~$279.99 USD. I was out of town for a week or I would have jumped on it. I just didn’t want to make a purchase on an unknown / possibly insecure network. I got home late yesterday and the price shot back up today,….

Oh well, at these current prices I might as well wait to see what happens when Ivy Bridge is released. I think I heard availability will be on the 23 rd.

With any luck the Ivy Bridge Core i7 3770 will hit Microcenter at ~$279 to ~$300, which, would displace the Sandy Bridge Core i7 2600K (~$279) and the Sandy Bridge Core i7 2700K (~$300).

[Doon1]

Core voltage is important, but it isn't everything to be considered for OC potential. A 3.5 Ghz IB has hit 7 Ghz! A 100% overclock.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/other/d...e_to_7GHz.html

From that same article: "The highest clock-speed ever achieved by a PC microprocessor is 8585MHz. Andre Yang has managed to overclock an AMD FX microprocessor using Asus Crosshair V Formula mainboard and liquid nitrogen cooling system."
That's 139%. I bet that CPU could run FSX with all the bells and whistles maxed out.
John