The slip and slide to infanticide.

[kbohip]

More like you enjoy getting off on telling all of us that we're wrong. Admit it, Meridian, a part of you likes the idea of you being the smartest guy on the forum, dropping in here and educating us silly right-wing conservative Americans on how things really work, then disappearing.

If there's one thing that hasn't changed on this forum in the decade I've been here....

[Dutchcedar]

Dutch's equations make for great cheap insults, but otherwise are wrong.

They certainly don't make cheap insults. We can leave that to people who disagree. Explain how they're wrong.

[Big B-man]

Here's the thing:

I can see where there's a problem prior to the child being born. It is still part of the mother. Not just internally floating there, but also connected because of the umbilical cord.

However, it seems less confusing once the child is out and the cord cut. It's a physically independent being.

It is confusing because a woman can have an abortion, and this is legally allowed. However, if she abuses drugs or alcohol, she could face legal repercussions. Clearly, this is inane.

To kill a post-birth child because of a condition seems a dangerous slope. The assumption is that if the child has a specific condition, they aren't fit to live, won't enjoy life, too much work for the parents...arguments can continue.

This opens the can of worms.
How long is this applicable? Day one only or longer? How long?
What conditions does it cover?
Who performs the act? The doctor or the parents? Either/or?



It should be obvious what side of the issue I'm on.
I want to say that I'm not positive we'll get there, but I am concerned about the possibilities presented.

I know this can be a big bomb to toss, but the thought process sometimes seems akin to what the Nazis did with mentally disabled euthanization program in Germany. The reasons aren't quiet the same, but the vibes are similiar.

The Nazis did it to purify the country (this shouldn't be a shocker) and eliminate useless/unwanted people. The first issue, I don't see matching with the pro-abortion movement, but the useless/unwanted part does.

It seems as thought a child with a major defect is deemed worthy to kill, but should that child grow, killing that person later on would likely be deemed murder.

[Windrunner]

Infanticide is a very old practice that was still done and considered appropriate in modern societies not so long ago. It should be looked up before being used for hyperbole.

[madhatter256]

You guys will argue about anything.... here's one that has no valid reason for being on TLR just like this topic:

Apple or PC? Which would you buy? Here's my argument:

People who buy a PC don't have the knowledge or mental capacity to put one together.
People who buy a MAC cannot think for themselves and rely on others.
People who build their own PC obviously can think for themselves and make an informed decision, but that doesn't make them automatically right and smart...

This topic is well over the head of the original poster.

[tucker]

Illinois bill will make state the 'abortion capital of America,' pro-life group warns

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ill...fe-group-warns

Well Illinois takes the lead in slip and slide Infanticide. It’s a mad Democratic Party race to see which state can kill the most babies...Something to be proud of evidently...

[tucker]

As an indication of things to come go back and read the posts in 2012...

[tucker]

You remain a part of mommy and daddy for your entire life. That does not mean you aren’t a separate life and seperate individual devoid of mommy and daddy. The life within isn’t your life it’s a completely different life.

[tucker]

Dems block 'born alive' bill to provide medical care to infants who survive failed abortions

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/sen...ailed-abortion

The democrats are way beyond what Roe v Wade intended. I wonder when the organ harvesting starts? Likely minutes after death. Big buck bounty on the new borns ... Particularly Planned Parenthood.... I wonder when they’ll be served as dinner in high price restaurants...

[tucker]

Nurse adopts girl who had no visitors during hospital stay

https://www.foxnews.com/health/nurse...-hospital-stay

This is not right I demand abortion. After consulting three doctors they give the thumbs down no hope of normalcy. I can’t understand why that little girl is smiling maybe because she wasn’t euthanized... Ponder...

Abortion is a mothers right? I don’t believe nine judges in black robes should play god and nobody else should, not even mommy.

[kbohip]

Illinois bill will make state the 'abortion capital of America,' pro-life group warns

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ill...fe-group-warns

Well Illinois takes the lead in slip and slide Infanticide. It’s a mad Democratic Party race to see which state can kill the most babies...Something to be proud of evidently...

Chicago is mostly Dems. Dems are who mostly have abortions. I can get behind this bill.

[Dutchcedar]

Chicago is mostly Dems. Dems are who mostly have abortions. I can get behind this bill.

If the importation of new recruits could be stopped, the party would die out in a generation or two.

[tucker]

^^ I’ve had my share of tragedy but I’ve also seen pending tragedy turn into miracle. If everybody could go through the miracle I saw there would seldom be abortions...

[tucker]

Klobuchar goes off on restrictive abortion laws: 'This is dangerous'

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/klobuchar

Well of course Klowiebacher would support any kind of abortion even two years postpartum abortion... Afterall it’s a women’s right to murder a baby totally dependent on her for survival. Mother Nature and God aren’t smiling...

[Windrunner]

Bill sponsor Sen. Clyde Chambliss, a Republican, specified that the law would not prohibit the destruction of fertilized eggs used for in-vitro fertilization, only those conceived within a woman's body. "The egg in the lab doesn't apply. It's not in a woman. She's not pregnant," Chambliss said, in floor debate with Democratic Sen. Rodger Smitherman.

Source: https://reason.com/2019/05/15/reason-roundup-20/

WTF?