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  1. #1
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    A lasting gaming and multipurpose rig?

    This seem like a decent rig to play most current and forthcoming PC games? I have gotten plenty of suggestions for parts in previous threads . .
    • Purpose of System: Gaming, browsing internet, watching videos. But mostly for gaming. I also do want to use Folding@home as well.
    • Budget: Within about 1600 American dollars
    • Country: USA
    • Reuseable parts: Can't, see below (current specs) as to why
    • Overclocking: Doubtful. Though if I can get enough airflow I may try
    • Monitor: Currently 1680 x 1050 (22 Inches) - I eventually want HD (Between 23 - 27 inches)
    • Features of Motherboard: Firewire, USB 3.0, SATA 6 Gb/s, eSATA, UEFI
    • OS: Windows 7 64 bit (I have the discs for 32 & 64 bit)
    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

    CPU: Intel Core i7-3770 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($319.99 @ Newegg)
    CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($19.99 @ Newegg)
    Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD5H-WB ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($217.52 @ Mwave)
    Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($96.99 @ Newegg)
    Hard Drive: OCZ Agility 3 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($99.99 @ Newegg)
    Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($109.99 @ NCIX US)
    Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card ($459.98 @ NCIX US)
    Case: Corsair 500R White ATX Mid Tower Case ($124.99 @ Newegg)
    Power Supply: Silverstone 750W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($107.10 @ NCIX US)
    Optical Drive: LG GH22NS90B DVD/CD Writer ($21.98 @ Newegg)
    ----------------- these I will buy later ---------------------
    Optical Drive: LG GH22NS90B DVD/CD Writer ($21.98 @ Newegg)
    Optical Drive: LG GH22NS90B DVD/CD Writer ($21.98 @ Newegg)
    Monitor: Samsung P2770FH 27.0" Monitor ($294.98 @ NCIX US)
    Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64-bit) ($185.98 @ NCIX US)
    Keyboard: Microsoft SIDEWINDER X4 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($45.96 @ Amazon)

    Total: $2149.40
    (Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-05-03 23:34 EDT-0400)

    Current specs:
    • CPU: AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ (Clocked @ 2.0 GHZ)
    • CPU cooler: Fan
    • Motherboard: Asus A8N-BR (Pyrite)
    • Memory: 3 GB DDR 2
    • Hard Drive: 250 GB ATA
    • Video Card: nVIDIA GeForce 6150 LE, AMD Hammer
    • Case: HP Slimline (gray)
    • Power Supply: No idea. Really can't be much more than 100 watts
    • Optical Drive: HL-DT-ST DVDRRW GSA-H20L ATA Device
    • OS: Windows 7 Home Premium 32 bit
    And what I wanted in a new system:

    Hardware
    • USB 2.0 speeds that are minimum of 30 MB a second (although faster is good)
    • USB 3.0 speeds that are at lest 300+ MB/s [I will get / use an SSD]
    • Firewire (and or eSata port) --- because I have a external hardrive that has both along with USB
    • Several (e)SATA ports
    • At lest a solid terabyte (1.5 TB)
    • Supports VGA, DVI (@ first). Eventually HDMI
    • Multi card reader (although I mainly need SD and Memory Pro Stick Duo)
    • Able to use a PS3 controller AND A XBOX 360 controller (yes I know 360 is native support . . .)
    • I would like a quad core.
    • Built in WI-FI!
    Software
    • Windows 7 Ultimate (64 bit) (Main OS) -- Mostly for languages
    • May first run Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit - as I have both 32/64 bit discs now)
    • Windows XP (May run through a virtual machine)
    • Folding@home
    Gaming Software:

    - Will use steam:
    • Elder Scrolls (Morrowind -> Skyrim)
    • Portal 1 & 2
    • Batman Arkham (Asylum/City)
    • Sonic Generations
    • Quake (all)
    • Doom (all)
    • Wolfenstein (all)
    • Commander keen (all)
    • Bioshock (1/2) (perhaps infinite)
    • L.A. Noire
    • Bejeweled 2/3
    • Peggle
    • Various COD's
    • anything else that interests me
    - CD/DVD'S I have:
    • Warcraft 2 - Tides of Darkness & Beyond the Dark Portal
    • Warcraft 3 - Reign of Chaos & Frozen Throne
    • Diablo 1 - 3 (when it comes out)
    • The Sims 1 - And all expansions
    • The Sims 2 (probably)
    • Simcity 4000 & Rushhour
    • May use emulation (to run up to the PS2/Wii)
    Other Thoughts
    • Eventually a dual monitor setup (and one be HD resolution)
    • I will wait for some parts (hard drives, GPU, etc) to drop in price.
    • Will wait for IvyBridge. . . . (as if I have a choice)
    • I WANT UEFI, NOT regular old BIOS (that this slimline has)
    Power Supply Thoughts:
    • ABSOLUTE MAX Watts: 750w
    • Efficiency: AT LEST 80+ Silver
    • Modular - semi or fully
    Monitor Thoughts:
    • Screen: Full HD & Widescreen
    • Supports: HDMI, DVI, Displayport (if the motherboard of the computer does)
    • Within 1 - 2 MS response time (current monitor is 5 MS response time) [if I'd notice a real difference and price]
    • Screen size - 25 to about 27 inches
    Q:
    1. What use would I (as a regular home user) have for dual 10/100/1000 Mpbs?
    2. I doubt WiFI A/N will effect me as the router we use supports B/G. Though could I see lest some improvement in speeds? (doubtful)

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    Re: A lasting gaming and multipurpose rig?

    CM Hyper EVO is a bit better then the 212+...u get a flat copper base that makes better contact with cpu heatspreader.
    Seasonic X _Series psu are fantastic....A 650 Gold+ would be top notch.

    Gigabyte Z68 motherboards had a lot of boot loop problems, I'd avoid their Z77's myself.

    ASRock + Biostar have some nice Z77 boards if you aren't trying to hit over 5 Ghz.

    $185 for the OS? You can do better.

    Overclocking a "K" series processor is simplistic. You increase the multiplier (no bclk/fsb increase) and may have to bump up the vcore in the bios ONE notch. Done.

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    Re: A lasting gaming and multipurpose rig?

    Someone on this end throws a fit every time I mention a PSU using more than like 300 watts, 750 is probably already pushing it. I won't overclock or use a second GPU as I know he'd throw a even bigger fit because I'd need a larger PSU (even though it's 80% all around).

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    Re: A lasting gaming and multipurpose rig?

    About the PSU~

    Well way back when- quad core cpu's needed a lot of juice, and even single solution video cards needed A LOT of startup juice. Unless your planning on going SLI or dual card- theres no reason for a PSU over around 500 watts. The 650 is a nice one to go with in hot areas where you need constant voltage in hot climates. So I sorta agree with the someone on your end blasting you every time you mention a high wattage psu. How often are you going to be playing a game / burning a dvd / burning a cd / optimizing your hard drives AND editing some 3d sprites ?

    Your just not going to push current PSU's to their limits like you would have just a few years ago. With these new CPU's that just do not require as much voltage as before.

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    Re: A lasting gaming and multipurpose rig?

    You can save money on the following items and not lose much

    mobo -get a lower-end model, most of the basic features are the same. Built in wifi is usually an up-sell feature. you can probably find a discrete adapter for less than the price difference... though using wifi on a desktop seems silly to me if you can avoid it.
    ram -4x4GB is total overkill, 2x4GB is more than enough

    PSU is fine, most things look fine. why are you listing 3 CD rom drives? having mutliple CD rom drives is totally a thing of the past. I use mine once a month max at this point. GPU might be overkill. 7970 is a totally high-end card and you could probably get more than enough GPU to run all those games well at 1680x1050 OR 1080P for 60% of the cost


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    Re: A lasting gaming and multipurpose rig?

    I'd far rather have built in wifi, I'm about 60 feet away from the router but in separate areas of the house, unless we care to run a cable from one end to this room - wifi. Along with the router not having any more free ports.

    Right now I'm using an gold connected pin (I think) to the back of this slimline, an acer 11" laptop I have can get upwards of a MB/s (for what-ever reason) this barely gets 350 KB . . . .

    I won't overclock (hence no K). Or use a dual GPU (I think i'd need even more PSU power for that) - and despite it being $20+ more I've also changed to a seaseonic: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seasoni...supply-ss750km
    Last edited by dbzlotrfan; 05-04-2012 at 04:41 PM.

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    Re: A lasting gaming and multipurpose rig?

    Quote Originally Posted by dbzlotrfan View Post
    I'd far rather have built in wifi, I'm about 60 feet away from the router but in separate areas of the house, unless we care to run a cable from one end to this room - wifi. Along with the router not having any more free ports.
    so is there any other reason to really want built in wifi over a separate pcie card? that will significantly reduce the number of available motherboards because only high-end boards typically integrate it. You're probably going to wind up costing yourself 70$ just to get that feature


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    Re: A lasting gaming and multipurpose rig?

    Just get a USB wireless adapter. One with a extension cable and antenna is ideal. I use this one on one of my rigs. Works great.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16833166056
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