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  1. #16
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    Re: SCOTUS Arizona Decision

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutchcedar View Post
    That seems to be a recurring argument for all things Obambi.

    Its as if saying you like Cadillac blinkers means you must like Cadillacs.

    Its the Juan Williams/Sean Colmes standard argument.

    Do ya think a president's pandering for votes from sub-set of voters might be in anyway different than proposing an idea in a comprehensive bill?
    Please.

    Let's not play pretend. I know what Obama is. I know he is pandering. I also know that the DREAM ACT of which so many republicans supported before Obama supported it is now stuck in the Senate due to filibuster. Fancy that. How do you work with people whose only goal is to embarrass you and defeat you? You embarrass them back by pointing out that they have no goal other than to embarrass and defeat you.

    You and I know it has nothing at all do to with immigration and everything to do with getting elected. On both sides of the aisle.

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    Re: SCOTUS Arizona Decision

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackDragon24 View Post
    Please.

    Let's not play pretend. I know what Obama is. I know he is pandering. I also know that the DREAM ACT of which so many republicans supported before Obama supported it is now stuck in the Senate due to filibuster. Fancy that. How do you work with people whose only goal is to embarrass you and defeat you? You embarrass them back by pointing out that they have no goal other than to embarrass and defeat you.

    You and I know it has nothing at all do to with immigration and everything to do with getting elected. On both sides of the aisle.
    Poor Mr. "I won". The same guy who had full control of gubberment for 2 years has his supporters crying about a fillibuster now. How comical. What's that you say? The opposition party he locked outta negotiations don't wanna cooperate with him now? Poor... poor.. messiah. Leaders find a way to make it happen... which is why bamma and his surrogates are reduced to whining about an uncooperative opposition. They have neither the tools required or desire to get anything done. Far easier to blame someone else for their failures.
    "The most dangerous myth is the demagoguery that business can be made to pay a larger share, thus relieving the individual. Politicians preaching this are either deliberately dishonest, or economically illiterate, and either one should scare us...
    Only people pay taxes, and people pay as consumers every tax that is assessed against a business."


    -The Gipper


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    Re: SCOTUS Arizona Decision

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackDragon24 View Post
    Please.

    Let's not play pretend. I know what Obama is. I know he is pandering. I also know that the DREAM ACT of which so many republicans supported before Obama supported it is now stuck in the Senate due to filibuster. Fancy that. How do you work with people whose only goal is to embarrass you and defeat you? You embarrass them back by pointing out that they have no goal other than to embarrass and defeat you.

    You and I know it has nothing at all do to with immigration and everything to do with getting elected.
    Yeah, let's not pretend. Let's not pretend that pandering for votes with executive orders in an election season should or will be supported by your opposition based on principle.
    On both sides of the aisle.
    Both sides. That's the Alan Colmes meme for every failed argument about Obambi.

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    Re: SCOTUS Arizona Decision

    Quote Originally Posted by AMDScooter View Post
    Poor Mr. "I won". The same guy who had full control of gubberment for 2 years has his supporters crying about a fillibuster now. How comical. What's that you say? The opposition party he locked outta negotiations don't wanna cooperate with him now? Poor... poor.. messiah. Leaders find a way to make it happen... which is why bamma and his surrogates are reduced to whining about an uncooperative opposition. They have neither the tools required or desire to get anything done. Far easier to blame someone else for their failures.
    Whining about an uncooperative opposition? More like pointing out the fact that the opposition's only self-stated goal is to defeat Obama. To the point that they now no longer support legislation they once supported simply because the democrat in the white house supports it. If Mitt Romney had won in 2008 you guys would all be singing the praises of the individual mandate and how it was going to save health care in this country.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutchcedar View Post
    Yeah, let's not pretend. Let's not pretend that pandering for votes with executive orders in an election season should or will be supported by your opposition based on principle. Both sides. That's the Alan Colmes meme for every failed argument about Obambi.
    Mebbe you should stop watching fox news liberals trying to explain liberal points of view. You might as well ask for marriage advice from Bill Clinton while you are at it.

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    Re: SCOTUS Arizona Decision

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackDragon24 View Post
    Mebbe you should stop watching fox news liberals trying to explain liberal points of view. You might as well ask for marriage advice from Bill Clinton while you are at it.
    Scrapin' the barrel, are ya, BD?

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    Re: SCOTUS Arizona Decision

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackDragon24 View Post
    Whining about an uncooperative opposition? More like pointing out the fact that the opposition's only self-stated goal is to defeat Obama. To the point that they now no longer support legislation they once supported simply because the democrat in the white house supports it. If Mitt Romney had won in 2008 you guys would all be singing the praises of the individual mandate and how it was going to save health care in this country.
    Yes.. whining. More like a tantrum.. but whining fits as well. Singing praises? Like the way we supported the GWB "stimulus" and "amnesty" plans? Okey~dokey pokey. Whatever it takes to get u thru the night I guess.

    I was wondering if this is really the best the hive at the kos can come up with. Guess so. You libs are terrible at dealing with actual observed historical data vs. what you wish happened that fits your narrow viewpoint. Prolly why so many of you still buy into MMGW.

    "The most dangerous myth is the demagoguery that business can be made to pay a larger share, thus relieving the individual. Politicians preaching this are either deliberately dishonest, or economically illiterate, and either one should scare us...
    Only people pay taxes, and people pay as consumers every tax that is assessed against a business."


    -The Gipper


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