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    2 Samsung 830 256GB SSD in RAID 0--help design storage for new build

    I'm in the process of piecing a new build together, and now I need to make some storage decisions. I've been trying to find some info on running 2 Samsung 830s in RAID 0. Anyone have any experience with them, or read anything about it? I have one 830 256GB right now and I'm trying to decide whether I should order another. 256GBs isn't enough for all my games/programs with ample room leftover. Instead of using one ~500GB drive, I figured I might as well get two so I can set up a RAID 0. I also remember hearing/reading someone mention (possibly Ally M.) that TRIM effected the Samsungs when in RAID, so I'm a bit hesitant to order the second. Just wanted to clear it up.

    As for my bulk storage--with the release of the WD Red HDs I've been planning on 2 2TB drives, with plenty room for expansion. The Corsair Obsidian 800D case with the Hot Swap bay will give me plenty of room to add drives.

    I'll be filling up the Reds with video captures of video games for my website, as well as some other videos I rip, such as historical documentaries and more. The prospect of RAID 0 scares me when it comes to important storage. I know the Red drives are 35% more reliable than typical consumer drives, but aren't they designed for redundancy based RAIDS? Is it pointless for me to run a RAID 0 with the Reds? Am I taking a risk unnecessarily for minimal performance gain in my use case? Now I'm wondering if it would be best to just run the Reds as two separate drives. But if I'm running separate drives then I might be better off getting a faster drive like the Hitachi or WD Green. What do you guys think? How would you set your new system up if you were in the market for a new setup?
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    Re: 2 Samsung 830 256GB SSD in RAID 0--help design storage for new build

    SSDs do not support Raid0 Trim but they do support Garbage Collector.

    I have 3 Corsairs in raid0 one computer and 2 Corsairs in raid0 on another and have never experienced a slowdown on the drives.
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    Re: 2 Samsung 830 256GB SSD in RAID 0--help design storage for new build

    Raid 0 is overrated and not worth the risk.

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    Re: 2 Samsung 830 256GB SSD in RAID 0--help design storage for new build

    Quote Originally Posted by kleinkinstein View Post
    Raid 0 is overrated and not worth the risk.





    anyways, for the OP:
    If you're going to do a RAID-0 array, move the locations of your personal libraries (my documents, pictures, music, video, fav's, etc...) to the seperate drive not in the raid array 'just in case'. (right click -> locations tab)

    You'll enjoy the extra sequential speed of the RAID-0 array, especially if you're going to be transcoding video.
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    Re: 2 Samsung 830 256GB SSD in RAID 0--help design storage for new build

    Thing with RAID 1 and the like, lost space, half lost to use because of redundancy, no speed increase. I found better backups elsewhere on another drive to keep the speed and space from RAID 0.

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    Re: 2 Samsung 830 256GB SSD in RAID 0--help design storage for new build

    Quote Originally Posted by richardd43 View Post
    SSDs do not support Raid0 Trim but they do support Garbage Collector.

    I have 3 Corsairs in raid0 one computer and 2 Corsairs in raid0 on another and have never experienced a slowdown on the drives.
    This is actually no longer accurate. At least not for users of the new Z77 chipset (and at least one more chipset from the 7 series). In addition to that, the X79 chipset and presumably C606 chipset will receive similar TRIM support in RAID 0 configurations with an upcoming update to the Intel RSTe (Enterprise):

    Intel Brings TRIM to RAID-0 SSD Arrays on 7-Series Motherboards, We Test It

    Ironically, the Anandtech article actually uses Samsung 830 SSD units for their evaluation. So this should be especially of interest to the OP assuming that the new system was based on the new Intel series 7 chipsets such as the Z77.
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    Re: 2 Samsung 830 256GB SSD in RAID 0--help design storage for new build

    This is actually no longer accurate
    Well, right after I wrote that someone sent me the 11.6 drivers. I had previously been told that the 11.2 drivers had been pulled for BSOD issues and was not aware of the new drivers being available.

    I am happy to be corrected....
    Last edited by richardd43; 10-09-2012 at 11:19 PM.
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