Guildwars 2

[mpulliam]

I am first and formost an MMO gamer, and as such we just finished up another GW2 Beta Weekend (inbetween Rift, Tera and the occational appearance in WoW still).

Anyone that played or planning on buying GW2 want to share opinions?

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[leroy329]

I am first and formost an MMO gamer, and as such we just finished up another GW2 Beta Weekend (inbetween Rift, Tera and the occational appearance in WoW still).

Anyone that played or planning on buying GW2 want to share opinions?

-=M=-

I played the Sh*t out of every class in those 2 ish days till lvl 14

so I have a really good idea whats its about... I played WoW WoTLK
till 80. so i know the difference in first appearance... the first few lvls on GW2 is so slow as you don't have decent enough concept on what direction to go, so dont do anything rash by preplanning your way cause its different each time you try the same class. each race, and each class for each race has a different skill set for each weapon they can use, and it is standard all across the board only thing uping or downing you char is "upgrade slots" that you put on dropped gear, and weapons. you have to use the skills you start with to get the 'next' one which in this case is button 2 then 3, and so on.

each class has the possibility to be a 'healer' whether a good one or a bad. one necro, is by far the best self sustain/ tank on top of AoE healer. definitely my go to class.

if you want to know a bit more you can totally pm or post here.

[modru2004]

just snagged the digital standard version at gamefly for 47.99

hope its worth it. enjoyed the first one so i imagine i won't be disappointed.

[mpulliam]

My wife loves it. I dont like it. It feels too "canned" to me. Might as well just watch TV and periodicly mash some buttons without looking....

This will mark the first time that my wife ventures on her own into a MMO world where I go elsewhere.

[modru2004]

My wife loves it. I dont like it. It feels too "canned" to me. Might as well just watch TV and periodicly mash some buttons without looking....

This will mark the first time that my wife ventures on her own into a MMO world where I go elsewhere.

thats true with almost every mmo ive ever played not counting tera.

that game actually took some effort and skill.

[mpulliam]

thats true with almost every mmo ive ever played not counting tera.

that game actually took some effort and skill.

See I liked that about Tera too (similar reason I like the original, unpatched AoConan), but my wife thought Tera was a lateral move from Rift, so we went back to Rift.

My point about GW2 though, is that you dont need to do anything other then run any random direction with any random amount of other players and not once stop and read a quest, or even look up and see any scenery. It was button mash the whole time. With my experiance in MMO's, this leads to a "dumbing down" of game play and style. Rather then use any specific skill, the mass zerg tends to just be like locust and spam one usefull AE only because it has the fastest cool down, regardless if it was weak or not.

If you play Rift (our current MMO) a perfect example is the "Fan Out Rogue". Many specs, all more powerfull then the insta-cast Fan Out, yet thats all rogues do now because 5-8 rogs fanning out is 98% as powerful as one rog actually using his skills yet the player gets to pick his nose, Twitter, FB etc and still act like he is contributing.

I stand by what I have said since early latency testing in GW2: Its a great game for the COD-minded people that are dabbling in MMO's. Fast, furious, and canned. Nothing wrong with that. I'm old, and when I want to log in for 20 minutes before supper, GW2/COD are the games I would opt to jump in.

With how Blizzard/WoW took the gamer community, and had US introduce this game to casual gamer family and friends and it exploded into the behemoth that is; GW2 will do the same thing. GW2 is the methodone to WoWs heroin. Wean those people that have only EVER played WoW to an action-based MMO. From there... we will see where all those people go and if GW2 has the longevity so many people assume it is offering.

-=M=-

[leroy329]

Alright... how long did you play GW2? because that's only for the wide world instances. the actual class quests take some traveling and scenery looking to get there, and at around 14-15 the game takes immense skill to kill anything around your lvl or above. Me and one buddy of mine took 30 minutes of not dying and trying to kill once boss for his quest line. That's 30 minutes of tactical playing and well timed auto attacks and skills used. it was made for a 4 man group but that would only take it down to about 15 minutes still battling that damn thing. that is far from dumbed down in fact that's what I want in an mmo, I want the bosses to be 100X tougher to kill then the random mobs and they nailed it spot on. its only dumbed down in the beginning quests to get you used to using skills and rolling around to avoid the instant death moves some of the bosses have. It was a completely different MMO experience than any WoW wanna be, or even rift, or aion ect... so give it another go when the game is released on the 23 and play in the mind set of "the game picks up around XX"

because every class quest quest is 100% different, and its also different for each race, and the beginning 3 choices you pick from. So i picks up and gets incredibly hard at around 14-15.

just try it one more time, and take if from someone who played wow both paid and private for a few years... this game is alot better maybe even the next "wow killer"

[mpulliam]

Alright... how long did you play GW2? because that's only for the wide world instances. the actual class quests take some traveling and scenery looking to get there, and at around 14-15 the game takes immense skill to kill anything around your lvl or above. Me and one buddy of mine took 30 minutes of not dying and trying to kill once boss for his quest line. That's 30 minutes of tactical playing and well timed auto attacks and skills used. it was made for a 4 man group but that would only take it down to about 15 minutes still battling that damn thing. that is far from dumbed down in fact that's what I want in an mmo, I want the bosses to be 100X tougher to kill then the random mobs and they nailed it spot on. its only dumbed down in the beginning quests to get you used to using skills and rolling around to avoid the instant death moves some of the bosses have. It was a completely different MMO experience than any WoW wanna be, or even rift, or aion ect... so give it another go when the game is released on the 23 and play in the mind set of "the game picks up around XX"

because every class quest quest is 100% different, and its also different for each race, and the beginning 3 choices you pick from. So i picks up and gets incredibly hard at around 14-15.

just try it one more time, and take if from someone who played wow both paid and private for a few years... this game is alot better maybe even the next "wow killer"

I pre-ordered, son. We currently have 3 pre-orders and one thats on the fence.

Games are cheap entertainment.

I play EVERY game out there (trust me, I get paid well to do it). I just voiced my personal opinion on the game.

You said it yourself "...snip...Me and one buddy of mine took 30 minutes of not dying and trying to kill once boss for his quest line. That's 30 minutes of tactical playing and well timed auto attacks and skills used. it was made for a 4 man group...snip..." I did the same quest with 4 friends and still watched Murder She Wrote while making a Mai-Tai. How often do you play an MMO and when a raid starts, the leader says, "we are going to do this dungeon with half the amount needed"?

I am all for "harder". I bought the lifetime sub to Vanguard for that reason, but the "masses" do not want harder, they want themepark that looks like open world that has a loot pinata and it all better happen before momz puts me in bed. I am a firm believer in losing experiance for death. People cry about that.

I recently wrote an article exactly about games trying to be the "WoW Killer". There is no such beast. WoW has lived and DIED already. At this point, WoW is nothing more then an attic full of stuff, so trying to "burn down grandmas house" isnt going to happen. WoW is basicly 10 million people NEEDING to come to terms with it. There is no rapid decline when Blizzard has set the failure level at glide. Slow and steady decent.

EQ1 still boasts @90k players.

I'll be dead and buried by the time WoW ever drops to the 90k sub range....

[leroy329]

I pre-ordered, son. We currently have 3 pre-orders and one thats on the fence.

Games are cheap entertainment.

I play EVERY game out there (trust me, I get paid well to do it). I just voiced my personal opinion on the game.

You said it yourself "...snip...Me and one buddy of mine took 30 minutes of not dying and trying to kill once boss for his quest line. That's 30 minutes of tactical playing and well timed auto attacks and skills used. it was made for a 4 man group...snip..." I did the same quest with 4 friends and still watched Murder She Wrote while making a Mai-Tai. How often do you play an MMO and when a raid starts, the leader says, "we are going to do this dungeon with half the amount needed"?

I am all for "harder". I bought the lifetime sub to Vanguard for that reason, but the "masses" do not want harder, they want themepark that looks like open world that has a loot pinata and it all better happen before momz puts me in bed. I am a firm believer in losing experiance for death. People cry about that.

I recently wrote an article exactly about games trying to be the "WoW Killer". There is no such beast. WoW has lived and DIED already. At this point, WoW is nothing more then an attic full of stuff, so trying to "burn down grandmas house" isnt going to happen. WoW is basicly 10 million people NEEDING to come to terms with it. There is no rapid decline when Blizzard has set the failure level at glide. Slow and steady decent.

EQ1 still boasts @90k players.

I'll be dead and buried by the time WoW ever drops to the 90k sub range....

I guess me and my buddy are the minority then. Also when I said it took half the amount needed it recommended a 4 man party for that quest.

and I completely agree that they sent their mmo to death. they also said somewhere that this last expansion is it. People flipped out about that, and by flip out I mean they completely flipped, maybe a small population in total but a good 100k sub or more Disappeared. Gw2 is just a cheap over all game its pay $60 have it forever, and that is the appeal they have always gone for, for guild wars. it comes out on the 25 I believe for those that pre-ordered. and I'm aware it was your opinion your entitled to it. I'm not trying to "convert" you to come back, but I also asked how long did you play?

because if your looking for a game to just coast through you can play Gw2 like that, or you can participate in everything it has to offer, its quite diverse in the play styles it offers. that's my opinion

[CTUnit1]

I've been playing GW2 the past 2 days and I've been having a fun time with it. Exploring new areas and trying out the classes. I'd write more but I'm having trouble putting this game down. Playing a Norn Guardian, lvl 26 right now on Ferguson's Crossing.

[modru2004]

ive actually been kinda disappointed with guild wars 2.

i see the potential thats there. but they just haven't quite fleshed it out enough.

the game feels very shallow. the "story" is complete crap. ive seen childrens books that were more interesting and better told.

the combat is ...........meh. its missing something. it doesn't help that 9/10 times in pve your zerging a mob down with a 100 other people which means you resort to spamming your main attack.

the world just feels bland and uninteresting. i will admit that some of the scenery is fairly nice looking.

also the way the leveling system works........it just feel no desire to progress.

i mean the absurdity of creating a game with levels where levels mean nothing. how high do you have to be to think thats a good idea?

because the game scales your level automatically leveling is kinda pointless. the quests are standard bland mmo fare kill x, pick up y. the only difference is you don't have to talk to someone to pick it up and turn in, it happens automatically if your in the area.

the combat is streamlined into fewer abilities, while not bad in of itself......its the fact that the rest of the combat system doesn't really deliver on the action oriented system they promised.

they added a manual dodge to basic mmo combat. big whoop.

i personally feel gw1 was better than this mess they call a game.

this game screams for the call of duty generation, the people that can easily amuse themselves with the same rebranded crap they've had for years.

[CTUnit1]

So is anyone else really enjoying this game? I honestly haven't had this much fun ever in an MMO.

[Mccordrm]

I just hit 80 on my second toon. I now have Reverend Rabbit, the Norn Guardian, and Ranger Rabbit (the... duh).

Anyhow, loving the game. Just trying to figure out what to level next. My only
real gripe thus far is how few hit points the Guardian has as a heavy armor
character. Kind of disappointing since our only range abilities suck ass, so we
get kited to all hell and back.

[J-Bo]

Been playing for a week now. My level 35 Norn Guardian in his first set of rare armor.