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    Re: AMD: Link to official press release for our newest APUs: A10-7850K and A10-7700K

    WOW first Ghost Dog now Undersea it's blast from the past week.
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    Re: AMD: Link to official press release for our newest APUs: A10-7850K and A10-7700K

    Hello Z,

    Careful next it might be Uncle Bob.


    Well I bought a A-10 7850 and a good cooler. I will have a write up on Friday or Saturday, hopefully we learn something. I really am not an OCer anymore, processors, even AMD are so fast and good IMO no reason. I do find it really strange that almost every review site talked about OCing and no real mention of heat? Is heat not a factor with raising volts? I doubt it.

    Remember on this site they mentioned updated hybird crossfire drivers, not released yet by AMD, late and making me wonder.
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    Re: AMD: Link to official press release for our newest APUs: A10-7850K and A10-7700K

    Quote Originally Posted by undersea View Post
    I do find it really strange that almost every review site talked about OCing and no real mention of heat? Is heat not a factor with raising volts? I doubt it.
    Modern processors still get good and toasty when over-volted. I think the lack of mention might be because there are so many good coolers these days, both air and all-in-one water coolers, that can manage the extra heat.
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    Re: AMD: Link to official press release for our newest APUs: A10-7850K and A10-7700K

    Rebel's Haven. Wow, I completely forgot about that site. I used to go there to squeeze everything I could out of my cheap little Biostar boards!
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    Re: AMD: Link to official press release for our newest APUs: A10-7850K and A10-7700K

    Great Site, Good info.

    I guess it's the motherboard bios, much better cooler installed correctly.

    I originally bought a combo deal on newegg. Damn motherboard bios didn't work with new chips originally, old bios no support . Newegg played legalese and wouldn't even give me free shipping, thank goodness microcenter is 10 minutes from my house, now i have to sell a A10-7700 on ebay along with a A-6 chip.



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    Re: AMD: Link to official press release for our newest APUs: A10-7850K and A10-7700K

    you don't still think those numbers(70c) are bad, do you?


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    Re: AMD: Link to official press release for our newest APUs: A10-7850K and A10-7700K

    No I don't think so maybe the numbers go backward??

    I think a bios issue, this is gigabyte's high end AMD gaming board
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    Re: AMD: Link to official press release for our newest APUs: A10-7850K and A10-7700K

    I feel dumb but I think the numbers do run backward, I wish one of the reviews could have mentioned it.

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    Re: AMD: Link to official press release for our newest APUs: A10-7850K and A10-7700K

    Quote Originally Posted by undersea View Post
    I feel dumb but I think the numbers do run backward, I wish one of the reviews could have mentioned it
    That might make sense based on what I quoted back on page 2
    Thermal Margin indicates how far the current operating temperature is below the maximum operating temperature of the processor
    So I guess the goal is to keep the Margin as large as possible which would be the very opposite of the way we are used to thinking about temps.
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    Re: AMD: Link to official press release for our newest APUs: A10-7850K and A10-7700K

    when i was in the military, we'd sometimes play hearts. always had a hard time with not winning tricks. just the opposite of most other games, pinocle, euchre, etc. then there was always the very long, long, long pause until someone would yell, "dave throw the 2 of clubs!".

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    Re: AMD: Link to official press release for our newest APUs: A10-7850K and A10-7700K

    Unless you can win them all of course
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    Re: AMD: Link to official press release for our newest APUs: A10-7850K and A10-7700K



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    Re: AMD: Link to official press release for our newest APUs: A10-7850K and A10-7700K

    Quote Originally Posted by undersea View Post
    No I don't think so maybe the numbers go backward??

    I think a bios issue, this is gigabyte's high end AMD gaming board
    Technically, there is no such thing in the market in general.

    If you were talking about AMD alone though, I suppose it could be.

    Last year we saw the state of AMD's "high end" when their $1000 5GHz chip was beaten more often than not by intel's $200 chip from two years earlier.

    These days, AMD's "high end" APUs are more in competition with cell phones and tablets than what intel is doing in PCs.

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    Re: AMD: Link to official press release for our newest APUs: A10-7850K and A10-7700K

    I just wanted to add something about the earlier 'Thermal Margin' discussion. I'm now fairly convinced this statement is correct:
    Thermal Margin indicates how far the current operating temperature is below the maximum operating temperature of the processor
    I recently downloaded the latest version of AMD Overdrive and stress tested by 8350 with Prime95. The higher my CPU temp went (as reported by other tools like HW Monitor & my CPU Usage/PCMeter gadget) the lower the Thermal Margin went approaching zero. When my temp was 50C the margin was 20C. When my temp was 60C the margin was 10C. This suggests that AOD is telling us that the max safe temp for the 8350 is 70C. Clever idea for AMD to display the Thermal Margin but I do wish they also displayed the CPU temp to remove any ambiguity.
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    Re: AMD: Link to official press release for our newest APUs: A10-7850K and A10-7700K

    http://sites.amd.com/us/Documents/AM...ease_Notes.pdf

    AMD OverDrive™ Utility 4.3.1.0690 Update list:

    Support new AMD APUs (code name Kaveri) launched Jan 2014; A10-7850K, A10-7700K

    Starting with AMD OverDrive Ver 4.3.1.0690 instead
    of displaying CPU temperature, AOD will report
    Thermal Margin. Thermal Margin indicates how far the current operating temperature is below the
    maximum operating temperature of the processor.

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