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  1. #31
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    Re: Trump About Is Fair Play: How bout that Great Wall

    Quote Originally Posted by kbohip View Post
    You mean kinda like how WE paid to build a big fence on Mexico's southern border?

    Mexico is building a 'wall'... on its southern border (to keep illegal immigrants out). Perhaps even more ironic, The FT notes that the Obama administration is coy about its role in Mexico’s crackdown but is sending $75m in equipment and training to help stop Central Americans from crossing illegally into Mexico... in other words, US Taxpayers funded a Mexican wall to keep immigrants out.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-0...ss-who-paid-it

    And yep, it's from ZH, not one of those accurate bastions of reporting such as CNN.
    That's what ZH says? We paid for a wall? Where's the pictures? It either hasn't happened or it's part of things happening since 2010.

    Development & Aid, Headlines, Human Rights, Latin America & the Caribbean, Migration & Refugees, Population
    MIGRATION-LATIN AMERICA: Another Wall Blocks Route to U.S.
    By Danilo Valladares
    GUATEMALA CITY, Sep 15 2010 (IPS) - Travelling without documents to the United States from Latin America can turn into an odyssey, in which migrants have to elude common criminals and drug traffickers along the way, not to mention the laws on migration. But now another obstacle is emerging: a wall between Guatemala and Mexico.

    According to the head of customs for Mexico’s tax administration, Raúl Díaz, in order to stop boats carrying contraband, the southern Mexican state of Chiapas is building a wall along the border river Suchiate, similar to the one the United States is building along its southern border with Mexico.

    “It could also prevent the free passage of illegal immigrants,” admitted the Mexican official.

    Smugglers use the Suchiate River to move products across an international border without paying duty taxes, but at the same time, thousands of Central and South Americans cross the river in their attempts to reach the United States in search of opportunity — and without the required documents.
    Speaking of pictures. there's been more than one attempt at making the wall up...
    Border Disorder
    A photograph purportedly showing a border wall between Mexico and Guatemala actually pictures a portion of the Israeli West Bank barrier.


    Of course, this has nothing to do with trumps campaign promise to build a great wall spanning the US/Mexican border and having Mexico pay for it, does it?
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    Re: Trump About Is Fair Play: GOP Reality vs Promise

    btw... I don't cut&slop from Politico, CNN, NYT or MSDNC. I link to a place that isn't quite as consumed by uncontrollable bias and hatred.
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    Re: Trump About Is Fair Play: GOP Reality vs Promise

    Quote Originally Posted by tucker View Post
    btw... I don't cut&slop from Politico, CNN, NYT or MSDNC. I link to a place that isn't quite as consumed by uncontrollable bias and hatred.
    HAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!FoxNews and InfoWars? They love everybody equally, lol.
    Thomas Jefferson to John Page Fairfeilds Dec: 25. 1762.
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    Re: Trump About Is Fair Play: GOP Reality vs Promise

    Quote Originally Posted by otoc View Post

    Well, your joke seemed to strike home with tucker. Look at him rant on like only he can express an opinion here."


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    Re: Trump About Is Fair Play: GOP Reality vs Promise

    Quote Originally Posted by baghdad bob View Post
    cheaper than a life time of government handouts. free birth control? that would help but then that's not the goal.

    bb
    Well it sure would have helped in your case - your little buddy too....

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    Re: Trump About Is Fair Play: GOP Reality vs Promise

    Quote Originally Posted by TicToc View Post

    Just like I had to endure Obama's campaign promises used to depict a harsh evaluation over his 8 years, it's time to set up a thread that places focus on our new President and the total control the GOP now has. The same rules of TLR handful absolute perfection hold.

    It's off to an interesting start...

    GOP and Trump put deficit on back burner

    So, check. Deficit spending is not bad anymore. Social Security is OK now. Time to spend more on the military, I guess more than all the nations in the world combined. Tax breaks for the rich. Rebuild the infrastructure- finally, because Obama isn't asking and deficits don't matter.
    Nice projection attempt - quit whining. Endure what? You don't need to login online, don't need to participate in this forum.

    Rebuild the infrastructure - not needed, Obama did it didn't he? "Shovel ready jobs" ROFL....

    They put the deficit that Obama and his cronies created on the back burner. Well, there's more pressing matters numbnutts - jobs for one, and the disaster in the middle east to clean up once again by a Republican - repeal Obamacare, Keystone XL, drilling, carbon tax fraud, etc, etc, etc...

    Quit Trolling ya crybaby loser.

    BTW: Looks like your candidate, in addition to losing the election by a landslide to the fine Republican is still having problems.....

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    Re: Trump About Is Fair Play: GOP Reality vs Promise

    Lol, always nice to see the resident TLR IdiOt CloWn make two posts in a row. I'll have to assume he's going on about me because the Ignore feature saves me from having to read the rantings of a moron.

    Meanwhile, about trump.

    No matter what he's promised, his interests will always give us an easy point to make that we've never had to use in TLR because standing presidents always put up an impenetrable wall between them and what they oversee. Well, there's always Cheney and Halliburton. We did cover that here and we'll never know the truth because 22 million emails on a private server were trashed by that administration while the focus was on Clinton. I swear, it's like 3 card Monty with you guys, lol.

    Here's a run down on possible future points...
    Trump’s vast web of conflicts: A user’s guide
    An agency-by-agency look at the ethics challenges flowing from Trump's sprawling business empire.
    Thomas Jefferson to John Page Fairfeilds Dec: 25. 1762.
    ... But the old-fellows say we must read to gain knowledge; and gain knowledge to make us happy and be admired. Mere jargon! Is there any such thing as happiness in this world? No: And as for admiration I am sure the man who powders most, parfumes most, embroiders most, and talks most nonsense, is most admired.


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    Re: Trump About Is Fair Play: GOP Reality vs Promise

    Quote Originally Posted by TicToc View Post

    Lol, always nice to see the resident TLR IdiOt CloWn make two posts in a row. I'll have to assume he's going on about me because the Ignore feature saves me from having to read the rantings of a moron.

    Meanwhile, about trump.

    No matter what he's promised, his interests will always give us an easy point to make that we've never had to use in TLR because standing presidents always put up an impenetrable wall between them and what they oversee. Well, there's always Cheney and Halliburton. We did cover that here and we'll never know the truth because 22 million emails on a private server were trashed by that administration while the focus was on Clinton. I swear, it's like 3 card Monty with you guys, lol.

    Here's a run down on possible future points...
    Trump’s vast web of conflicts: A user’s guide
    An agency-by-agency look at the ethics challenges flowing from Trump's sprawling business empire.
    TROLL ALERT - TROLL ALERT - TROLL ALERT, THIS IS NOT A TEST

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    Re: Trump About Is Fair Play: GOP Reality vs Promise

    so far the only tested rules being bent by our president elect are for the benefit of his family.
    Donald Trump’s Son-in-Law Could Get Key White House Role
    Donald Trump’s son-in-law, who became a close adviser in the presidential campaign, is likely to take a top White House job, people familiar with the presidential transition say.

    Jared Kushner, who has emerged as a lightning rod as departures have mounted in recent days from the team vetting possible appointees, is being pushed to join the president’s inner circle by new White House chief of staff Reince Priebus and presidential counselor Stephen Bannon, these people say.

    Mr. Kushner is regarded as Mr. Trump’s eyes and ears inside the evolving presidential transition. He is weighing formally joining his father-in-law in the White House, people familiar with the transition say. The 35-year-old Mr. Kushner would have a role in the White House along the lines of senior adviser or special counsel.

    He also is weighing the option of maintaining an influential role informally, without an official White House post, according to people familiar with his thinking.

    Taking a high-level government post would come at a cost. To address potential conflicts of interest with his real-estate business, which has closed some $14 billion in deals under his leadership, Mr. Kushner’s lawyers are exploring options of possible “structures.” One option would be a blind trust over which he would have no control or access. He would agree to suspend receiving any income or distribution from his real-estate and media holdings, people familiar with his thinking said.

    If Mr. Kushner accepts the White House post, he and his wife Ivanka Trump, who won’t have a formal role in the Trump administration, would likely need to relocate to the nation’s capital with their three young children. Taking that route would indicate “Jared recognizes and is inspired by the incredible opportunity to make a positive impact for America,” Ivanka Trump said.

    It isn’t clear whether a federal anti-nepotism law that bans appointing a relative to a job in an “agency” applies to the White House, and Mr. Kushner has indicated he would avoid the issue by not taking pay for any White House work.

    During the campaign, Mr. Kushner was a behind-the-scenes negotiator between feuding factions inside and outside the campaign, while campaign managers and Republican support came and went. His closeness to Mr. Trump now has lawmakers, potential administration appointees and business leaders reaching out to him in recent days, people in the transition team said.

    Some employees at his media company, The New York Observer, have criticized his political role and the tenor of Mr. Trump’s campaign. Another issue involving the Jewish community created controversy. In early July, the GOP nominee re-tweeted a graphic of Hillary Clinton that included a six-pointed star, a stack of cash and the words: “most corrupt candidate ever.” A chorus of critics charged that Mr. Trump’s action was anti-Semitic.

    Mr. Kushner rushed to his defense. In his own newspaper, he published a letter describing his father-in-law as “an incredibly loving and tolerant person,” compared to the “actual, dangerous intolerance” faced by his grandparents who were Holocaust survivors. One Observer newspaper staff member openly rebuked him.

    The soft-spoken Mr. Kushner, who typically dresses in khakis, crew-neck sweaters and athletic shoes, is the stylistic opposite of his father-in-law. He stays out of the limelight as assiduously as Mr. Trump seeks it. The two are linked, though, by real estate.

    Mr. Kushner grew up in a successful New Jersey real-estate family, where he was steeped in Democratic politics by his well-connected family, which hosted a Hillary Clinton fundraiser.

    Mr. Kushner’s father pleaded guilty in 2005 to corruption-related charges in exchange for a two-year prison sentence. The prosecutor of the elder Mr. Kushner was Chris Christie, now the governor of New Jersey and, until he was bounced from the role last Friday, head of the Trump transition.

    Some of those Mr. Christie brought into the transition effort also were dismissed in recent days, leading some to speculate that Christie influences were being purged by Mr. Kushner in retaliation. That is denied by people familiar with the transition; two Trump advisers say it was Mr. Bannon who told Mr. Christie he was out.

    Trump aides were upset both with the presence of lobbyists in the transition structure Mr. Christie put together, as well as the conviction of two of the governor’s aides in the so-called Bridgegate controversy in which traffic was intentionally snarled at the George Washington Bridge, according to two Trump advisers. Mr. Christie couldn’t be reached for comment.

    Mr. Kushner effectively took over the family business in 2006 when he was 25 years old. He paid $1.8 billion in 2007 for a skyscraper on Fifth Avenue a few blocks from Trump Tower, and sold off most of the company’s New Jersey portfolio for about $2 billion at the height of the real-estate market boom.

    Around the same time, the Orthodox Jewish Mr. Kusher began dating Ivanka Trump, who converted to his faith before they married in 2009 at the Trump National Golf Club in Bedminster, N.J. The couple live with their children in a penthouse in a Trump building on Park Avenue.

    After Mr. Trump entered the presidential campaign last year, Mr. Kushner and his wife, pregnant with their third child, occasionally accompanied him on the stump. At rallies, Ms. Trump was often recognized as a successful entrepreneur for her fashion brand and as a Trump executive, but Mr. Kushner disappeared into the crowds and walked anonymously within them. “I’m learning a whole new perspective of this country from the people at these events,” his friend NBA Commissioner Adam Silver recalled Mr. Kusher telling him.

    After Mr. Trump finished second behind Texas Sen. Ted Cruz in the Iowa Republican caucuses, Mr. Kushner jumped in directly to upgrade a shoestring operation. Because then-campaign manager Corey Lewandowski preferred to travel with the candidate, headquarters suffered. Mr. Kushner quietly worked to build a campaign infrastructure by setting up actual departments, including digital/social media, data, scheduling, policy and budget, campaign aides said.

    By the latter stages of the campaign, Mr. Kushner was with Mr. Trump almost constantly, except for Jewish holidays. He picked venues for campaign events, and weighed where dollars were to be spent, including buying digital and TV ads in key media markets and adjusting the ground game when daily polling data showed voter shifts. He also approved Mr. Trump’s travel plans, sometimes down to exact venues, campaign aides said.

    On election day, the first exit polls showed Mrs. Clinton ahead in battleground states in the late afternoon, which was contrary to the campaign’s internal data. Mr. Kushner, who had set up the data operation, and Mr. Bannon left the “war room” to talk privately on a Trump Tower deck overlooking Fifth Avenue. “Did we miss it?” they asked each other, according to someone told about the conversation.

    Mr. Kushner then asked his father-in-law, his wife and her two brothers to call talk radio shows into specific counties where polls were still open, a Trump adviser said.

    Now Mr. Kushner is deeply involved with the transition team in selecting cabinet nominees for the new Trump administration, an adviser said.

    A few months ago, he named a new president for the Kushner real-estate empire, reducing his own operational role. Under his leadership, Kushner Cos. had developed projects in emerging and trendy areas in Manhattan and Brooklyn.

    With his current attention on the transition, Mr. Kushner is reaching out to potential cabinet contenders and fielding calls from them. He added Eva Moskowitz, the founder and CEO of Success Academy Charter Schools, to the list of education secretary prospects. Although she’s a Democrat, she’s clashed with the progressive wing and teachers union.


    Mr. Kushner also is working with tech billionaire Peter Thiel, who’s on the transition team, to recruit tech talent into the government. Mr. Kushner is organizing roundtables of Silicon Valley figures to help lure tech experts into the new administration for policy and technology roles.

    Perhaps his most important role, though, is that of son-in-law, in which he meets Mr. Trump’s need to talk shop constantly. The president-elect skips small talk, which was true even when the family left Trump Tower on Tuesday night, leaving the transition press pool behind, for a celebratory dinner at the 21 Club in Manhattan. Messrs. Trump and Kushner, along with the family, spent most of the evening discussing the president-elect’s thinking on who would be his secretaries of Treasury, Defense and other key departments, advisers said
    I'm sure the right handful is fine with stretching nepotism to the point of an arrangement. Just like the handful is fine with Kushner's father's past with Christy not having any bearing on the latest 'transition' team upheaval.

    Prove me wrong guys. You know I can say I'm wrong about things.

    What I don't know is who of you guys can read past 30 words in the WSJ.
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    ... But the old-fellows say we must read to gain knowledge; and gain knowledge to make us happy and be admired. Mere jargon! Is there any such thing as happiness in this world? No: And as for admiration I am sure the man who powders most, parfumes most, embroiders most, and talks most nonsense, is most admired.


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    Re: Trump About Is Fair Play: GOP Reality vs Promise

    could, if, maybe, perhaps... lots of that in your article of the day. There's certainly no shortage of writers out to spin against everything Trump, even at the WSJ. Your job, apparently, is to find 'em.

    If... what might be according to your article evolves into becoming what it maybe, could possibly be, its certainly better than leaving your family in a hut.
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    Re: Trump About Is Fair Play: GOP Reality vs Promise

    In other new boss news... as the Democrats scramble to renew sucker votes from working class (read: probably racist and too dumb for college according to Democrats) whites, Debbie What'shernameshultz was replaced by Donna "here's your question" Brazille, who will likely be replaced with Keith "nationofislam" Ellison.


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    Re: Trump About Is Fair Play: GOP Reality vs Promise

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutchcedar View Post
    could, if, maybe, perhaps... lots of that in your article of the day. There's certainly no shortage of writers out to spin against everything Trump, even at the WSJ. Your job, apparently, is to find 'em.

    If... what might be according to your article evolves into becoming what it maybe, could possibly be, its certainly better than leaving your family in a hut.
    lol, another joke response there, dutch? You don't think I chose a Murdoch paper over one of those dastardly libtard rags because they just reported spin instead of the facts? Sure.

    And a guy who closed $14 billion on real estate deals is not destined for any hut. Interesting. Trump chose the son-in-law for security clearances and may place him in an official role because he was in need?

    All I can say is nice to see you are now for a rewrite of nepotism regulations in your post of the day.
    Thomas Jefferson to John Page Fairfeilds Dec: 25. 1762.
    ... But the old-fellows say we must read to gain knowledge; and gain knowledge to make us happy and be admired. Mere jargon! Is there any such thing as happiness in this world? No: And as for admiration I am sure the man who powders most, parfumes most, embroiders most, and talks most nonsense, is most admired.


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    Re: Trump About Is Fair Play: GOP Reality vs Promise

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutchcedar View Post
    In other new boss news... as the Democrats scramble to renew sucker votes from working class (read: probably racist and too dumb for college according to Democrats) whites, Debbie What'shernameshultz was replaced by Donna "here's your question" Brazille, who will likely be replaced with Keith "nationofislam" Ellison.

    Ahh the squirrel preemptive strike in this trump thread before someone mentions the reports of a f'd up infighting trump transition team. Good one.

    Now make somthin up about me giving you a hard time about going OT. I love it when you feign indignity.
    Thomas Jefferson to John Page Fairfeilds Dec: 25. 1762.
    ... But the old-fellows say we must read to gain knowledge; and gain knowledge to make us happy and be admired. Mere jargon! Is there any such thing as happiness in this world? No: And as for admiration I am sure the man who powders most, parfumes most, embroiders most, and talks most nonsense, is most admired.


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    Re: Trump About Is Fair Play: GOP Reality vs Promise

    Quote Originally Posted by otoc View Post
    lol, another joke response there, dutch? .
    Not at all... your posted article is all about maybes.

    And Obama's brother lived in a hut... maybe I should have been more accurate and said "shack"... no joke.


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    Re: Trump About Is Fair Play: GOP Reality vs Promise

    Quote Originally Posted by otoc View Post
    Ahh the squirrel preemptive strike in this trump thread before someone mentions the reports of a f'd up infighting trump transition team. Good one.

    Now make somthin up about me giving you a hard time about going OT. I love it when you feign indignity.
    Nah, we don't hold to the on-topic schtuff much anymore. You certainly don't.

    This is the closest thread for new folks in political parties. Make sense now?

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