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    Re: What about the Russians?

    Quote Originally Posted by AMDScooter View Post
    It's not the Mueller thing that concerns them.... it's the IG.

    I think you’re right. My biggest concern is the IG might cave under pressure.
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    Re: What about the Russians?

    Quote Originally Posted by tucker View Post
    I think you’re right. My biggest concern is the IG might cave under pressure.
    Based on the reactions of the left... he's already on the right track. Stinky putting this SQUIRREL post up is as good an indicator as any.
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    Re: What about the Russians?

    Quote Originally Posted by AMDScooter View Post
    Based on the reactions of the left... he's already on the right track. Stinky putting this SQUIRREL post up is as good an indicator as any.
    Yes that’s an indication alright... He probably got his marching orders from DNC central...
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    Re: What about the Russians?

    Quote Originally Posted by tucker View Post
    I hope it doesn’t offend you but you just offered a hypocritical double standard. It’s okay for Obambi not Trump. What Obambi did isn’t the issue it’s what Trump does that bothers you... Hmmm ... Intresting ...
    Quote Originally Posted by otoc View Post
    Sure, What about Obama? Did he say he never made that comment before the ACA got watered down? Try reading harder.
    No. How is that hypocritical? Trump said he never said it. Trump lies about lies.
    Another meaningless what about.


    Quote Originally Posted by tucker View Post
    ^^ In case you haven’t been following the news there’s a lot of evidence floating around out there that indicates Obambi and Hillary were deeply involved in Russian collusion. That’s ok it’s all about Trump... Kind of goofy wouldn’t you say...
    When you have something besides FoxNews posting about their questions?? and have actual indictments and admission of guilt, this what about Obama is ridiculous. Really. Trump was right when he said he could shoot someone and the base wouldn't care.
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    Re: What about the Russians?

    ^^^ Just change the thread title to "Trump according to Squirrel Man" and be done with your stupid charade.

    You hate Trump. We get it.

    And "you can keep your doctor" is not a lie. We get that too.

    Idiot.

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    Re: What about the Russians?

    Quote Originally Posted by otoc View Post
    No. How is that hypocritical? Trump said he never said it. Trump lies about lies.
    Another meaningless what about.



    When you have something besides FoxNews posting about their questions?? and have actual indictments and admission of guilt, this what about Obama is ridiculous. Really. Trump was right when he said he could shoot someone and the base wouldn't care.
    Obama never said he didn’t make that comment. That’s the same as an admission of guilt. Parsing words doesn’t get it he lied. Rosenstein made it clear the indictments had nothing to do with the Trump investigation. No guilt in anything. Witch hunt. Or are you talking about Flynn and Manafort. Illegally gathered information. Flynn the original FBI agents who question him said they thought Flynn didn’t lie. Months Later Sally Yates got involved instant lying to the FBI... Another Obambi miracle. You confuse indictment with guilt.
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    Re: What about the Russians?

    Mueller has no solid case on Manafort or Flynn. Flynn’s conviction will be thrown out and Manafort will never go to court. Mueller strong arming...
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    Re: What about the Russians?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutchcedar View Post
    ^^^ Just change the thread title to "Trump according to Squirrel Man" and be done with your stupid charade.

    You hate Trump. We get it.

    And "you can keep your doctor" is not a lie. We get that too.

    Idiot.
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    Re: What about the Russians?

    Quote Originally Posted by tucker View Post
    Or are you talking about Flynn and Manafort. Illegally gathered information. Flynn the original FBI agents who question him said they thought Flynn didn’t lie. Months Later Sally Yates got involved instant lying to the FBI... Another Obambi miracle. You confuse indictment with guilt.
    with the trump administration it's not whether someone lied but which lie.

    Full text: Michael Flynn criminal information

    The Special Counsel informs the Court:

    Count One
    On or about January 24, 2017, defendant MICHAEL T. FLYNN did willfully and knowingly make materially false, fictitious, and fraudulent statements and representations in a matter within the jurisdiction of the executive branch of the Government of the United States, to wit, the defendant falsely stated and represented to agents of the Federal Bureau of Investigation,
    in Washington, D.C., that:

    (i) On or about December 29, 2016, FLYNN did not ask the Government of Russia's Ambassador to the United States ("Russian Ambassador") to refrain from escalating the situation in response to sanctions that the United States had imposed against Russia that same day; and FLYNN did not recall the Russian Ambassador subsequently telling him that Russia had chosen to moderate its response to those sanctions as a result of his request; and

    (ii) On or about December 22, 2016, FLYNN did not ask the Russian Ambassador to delay the vote on or defeat a pending United Nations Security Council resolution; and that the Russian Ambassador subsequently never described_to FLYNN Russia's response to his request.
    If Flynn Is Small Fry, Who’s the Bigger Fish in Mueller’s Net?

    The obvious question any time someone is caught lying to the FBI is, How could they have been so stupid? This is especially true in the case of Flynn, the former head of the Defense Intelligence Agency. As a decorated and accomplished intelligence officer, he should have known that conversations with the Russian ambassador might be surveilled, producing irrefutable evidence that he was lying. His decision to lie about such a black-and-white matter raises questions about whether he might have hoped to cover something up.
    In other words, Mueller charged Flynn with a crime that everyone knew he committed, and has known he committed for months. His quick plea, and the skeletal charging document, point to any number of other potential crimes, whether publicly discussed or not.

    Certainly, there’s a range of questionable conduct for Mueller to investigate. Like Manafort, Flynn retroactively filed under the Foreign Agent Registration Act for lobbying, in Flynn’s case for work on behalf of Turkey that occurred during the campaign and ended (per Flynn) only with Flynn’s November 2016 appointment as national-security adviser. The plea deal stipulates that Flynn made “materially false statements and representations” in his March 2017 FARA filings that disclosed this work, but those were not among the statements for which he was charged. That’s at least one clear instance in which Mueller is aware of criminal misconduct which he has chosen not to prosecute at this stage of his investigation.

    That’s not all. According to reports and an account from former CIA Director James Woolsey, Flynn discussed a plot to kidnap Fethullah Gulen, the Turkish cleric living in self-imposed exile in Pennsylvania, whom the Turkish government accuses of fomenting a failed 2016 coup, and bundle him off to Turkey. Flynn also reportedly pushed a business plan on which he’d been a paid consultant after he entered the White House, a potential misuse of his office.

    Flynn could also be in trouble for things he did before he was appointed national-security adviser. After leaving the military, Flynn was paid for trips overseas, including one to Russia for a fete celebrating RT, the Kremlin-backed news and propaganda outlet; at dinner, Flynn was seated with President Vladimir Putin. As former top brass, Flynn should have sought Pentagon permission before taking those trips; he also should have disclosed them when applying to renew his security clearance in 2016. Members of Congress allege that Flynn did neither.

    These are only the incidents which have been publicly reported. Mueller may or may not know of other possible misdeeds.
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    Re: What about the Russians?

    ^^^ Being such a supporter of civil liberties as you've shown to be over the years here, it's rather surprising that you're so willing to make a big deal out of "making false statements" to the FBI, especially knowing that they can lie at will without repercussion and can [apparently have] threaten to go after his kids.

    I'm not defending Flynn... don't know him or know what he did. But this idea that one can be in trouble for getting something wrong seems to me to be very much like what you would expect in say, Russia.

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    Re: What about the Russians?

    Quote Originally Posted by baghdad bob View Post
    with the trump administration it's not whether someone lied but which lie.

    Full text: Michael Flynn criminal information



    If Flynn Is Small Fry, Who’s the Bigger Fish in Mueller’s Net?





    bb
    Your gal Sal the Logan Act what a flimsy reason to use, we all know about the Logan Act a law that should have been wiped off the books long ago. Ole Sal thought differently than Comey and his interviewing agents. Hmmm... Strange she wasn’t at the interview... telepathic... Subject to blackmail by who...
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    Re: What about the Russians?

    Quote Originally Posted by tucker View Post
    Mueller has no solid case on Manafort or Flynn. Flynn’s conviction will be thrown out and Manafort will never go to court. Mueller strong arming...
    Flynn's conviction will be thrown out? Huh?

    Flynn pleads guilty to lying to FBI, is cooperating with Mueller
    Flynn's plea agreement stipulates that he'll cooperate with federal, state or even local investigators in any way Mueller's office might need, according to a document filed in court Friday. He could also be required to participate in covert law enforcement operations (such as wearing a wire) if asked, or share details of his past dealings with the Trump transition and administration.

    Manafort will never go to court? It's getting interesting for Manafort right now.
    Trump-Russia inquiry: Manafort under pressure after reports that Gates has flipped
    Donald Trump’s former campaign manager is under increasing pressure to cooperate with criminal prosecutors investigating the campaign’s alleged collusion with the Kremlin following reports that his chief lieutenant will testify against him.

    Quote Originally Posted by tucker View Post
    Your gal Sal the Logan Act what a flimsy reason to use, we all know about the Logan Act a law that should have been wiped off the books long ago. Ole Sal thought differently than Comey and his interviewing agents. Hmmm... Strange she wasn’t at the interview... telepathic... Subject to blackmail by who...
    Je sus. Take a breather so we can understand wtf conspiracy you are talking about now. I can't keep up with them. And thank you judge tucker. Don't like a law? Banish it!

    Now that's the ultimate denial tactic I've ever seen. Hoorahh!! Good one!!
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    Re: What about the Russians?

    ^^^ Starts thread about RUSSIANS... can only talk about Trump... tic-toc..
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    Re: What about the Russians?

    Quote Originally Posted by otoc View Post
    Flynn's conviction will be thrown out? Huh?


    Manafort will never go to court? It's getting interesting for Manafort right now.



    Je sus. Take a breather so we can understand wtf conspiracy you are talking about now. I can't keep up with them. And thank you judge tucker. Don't like a law? Banish it!

    Now that's the ultimate denial tactic I've ever seen. Hoorahh!! Good one!!
    First some background on the Flynn case.

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/by...rticle/2648896

    And now more developments and more to come.

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/by...rticle/2649272

    Your DNC, MSM arguements fall short of realistic. I know you have your marching orders from DNC central but you really need to broaden the scope of your DeNile...

    Manafort! You really need to wait for a trial. My intuition tells me there ain’t going to be a stinking trial, illegal wiretapping and prosecutorial misconduct. I mean really kicking the door down in the middle of the night and using fear of flight as an excuse is 100 percent pure steaming pile.

    The Mad Hatter of Alice in Wonderland fame. That’s you and BB...



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    Re: What about the Russians?

    Megalomaniac

    A megalomaniac is a self-centered, power-crazed egomaniac that is obsessed with their goals for conquering cities and countries and world domination, they're rather over-obsessed with power rather than actual conquest. They also often fantasize of greatness, fame, wealth, grandeur, omnipotence predominate and servitude. Because of all the power driving them to becoming critically insane their minds are separated from reality since they also don't care what happens to anything at all as they care about themselves.

    Despite having the word maniac in the name of them being a megalomaniac, it does not mean they are always clinically insane.
    People in the second group have a slight case of megalomania. And yet they are obsessed with world domination as on their record they was labeled a megalomaniac
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