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    Re: Socialism Past and Present-Fake or The Best Answer

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    WTF do UN immigration conventions have to do with this?

    Confusing copy and paste, BB.

    As expected.
    A guide to the Geneva Convention for beginners, dummies and newly elected world leaders

    Merkel will have reminded Trump that the United States is a party to the 1967 Protocol Relating to the Status of Refugees. This prescribed the continuing application of the 1951 Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees, which was adopted to address the aftermath of World War II. That original convention was agreed in Geneva so it is sometimes referred to as the Geneva Convention.

    As the US voluntarily accepted the 1967 protocol to the refugee convention, it is legally obliged to implement it. Despite Trump’s personal complaints about these “rules,” all other states party to the protocol and convention can legitimately expect the US to comply — hence the expressions of dismay from other heads of state and officials as Trump announced his executive order.
    The Supreme Court’s Opinion on the Revised Trump Executive Order: What Does It Mean For Refugees?

    Legal and political analysis of the Supreme Court’s decision on the Trump executive orders has largely focused on the part of the original and revised orders that imposed the travel ban on several predominantly Muslim countries. Less noticed have been the paragraphs at the end of the decision that discuss the orders’ suspension of the refugee resettlement program.

    Recall that the second executive order suspended the overseas refugee program for 120 days and cut the overall number of refugee admissions for the current fiscal year from 110,000 to 50,000. The Ninth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeal’s decision on June 12 affirmed, on statutory (that is, nonconstitutional) grounds, the lower court’s preliminary injunction that barred enforcement of both the visa and refugee provisions in the executive order. (Because of the lower court’s injunction, the refugee program has continued to operate this year.)

    In ruling on the injunction issued by the district court and affirmed by the Ninth Circuit, the Supreme Court adopted the same formulation it applied to the injunction that barred enforcement of the visa ban provision
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    Re: Socialism Past and Present-Fake or The Best Answer

    Quote Originally Posted by tucker View Post
    Of my it’s a WTF friendly meeting





    This must be violence. I think Portland has earned the title of antifa violence capital.

    https://video.foxnews.com/v/58486427...#sp=show-clips





    I think the purple hair is a nice touch. Two homeless, two nerds, one purple hair and One I don’t know what the hell he is.

    Could this be construed as rule through fear... Mob...
    Report: FBI classifies far-right Proud Boys as 'extremist,' linked to white nationalism

    The document, written by Commander Michael McCabe, states that the Proud Boys were “publically (sic) categorized as an extremist group by the FBI in 2018.”

    According to The Guardian, the report marks the first time the group has been publicly labelled as “extremist” by the FBI.

    McCabe told the British newspaper that the FBI revealed the classification of the Proud Boys as an extremist group during an Aug. 2 briefing at Clark County’s west precinct.

    According to the report, the FBI warned local law enforcement that the group is recruiting in the Pacific Northwest and that they have “contributed to the recent escalation of violence at political rallies held on college campuses, and in cities like Charlottesville, Virginia, Portland, Oregon, and Seattle, Washington.”
    The group found itself in the national spotlight when several members were arrested in connection with a street brawl after McInnes spoke at a New York Republican club in mid-October. Deputy Commissioner John Miller told the New York Times that the NYPD has opened a criminal investigation into the organization itself.

    Shortly after the fight, McInnes and the group were banned from Facebook and Instagram because of policies against hate groups.
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    Re: Socialism Past and Present-Fake or The Best Answe


    The radical leftist have antifa, BLM and mobs they could all be described as anarchists.


    (“Anarchy

    A form of society based around the lack of a ruling class and an emphasis on individual freedom and equality. An ideal form of anarchy would involve a cooperative socialist gift economy, in which goods are freely produced and distributed according to need. Crime would not be the huge problem most people would imagine. Anyone with a basic knowledge of history knows that crime was never a huge problem until urbanization and then industrialization. A focus on community and civic responsibility would nearly eliminate violent crime (smaller, tightly knit communities have virtually no crime, even today). Property crime would be even a less of a problem, given that no one has more than anyone else and destruction of public property would be destruction of one's own property. In case a crime is committed, any and every member of the community is capable of either preventing the crime before hand or apprehending the criminal afterwards, a system which worked for thousands of years before police forces became common during the Industrial Revolution. A common argument against such a system is that "human nature" would eventually lead to a return of capitalism and the establishment of government. This is not a part of "human nature", however. Human beings have almost no instincts at birth. A tendency towards government and capitalism is a product of societal conditioning, not a natural inclination. There have been examples of similar systems working in the real world, including many in Spain during the Revolutions of the late 1930's. Living standards generally increased in these areas.
    "I had dropped more or less by chance into the only community of any size in Western Europe where political consciousness and disbelief in capitalism were more normal than their opposites. Up here in Aragon one was among tens of thousands of people, mainly though not entirely of working-class origin, all living at the same level and mingling on terms of equality. In theory it was perfect equality, and even in practice it was not far from it. There is a sense in which it would be true to say that one was experiencing a foretaste of Socialism, by which I mean that the prevailing mental atmosphere was that of Socialism. Many of the normal motives of civilized life--snobbishness, money-grubbing, fear of the boss, etc.--had simply ceased to exist. The ordinary class-division of society had disappeared to an extent that is almost unthinkable in the money-tainted air of England; there was no one there except the peasants and ourselves, and no one owned anyone else as his master." -George Orwell, on an anarchist community in Spain during the Revolution”)

    It sounds good to some people. It doesn’t work they don’t tell you about the rich few that manipulate the sheeple. Anybody who thinks humans can live in a utopia where everybody is equal doesn’t know much about human nature. Humans except the demorats are competitive, egar to improve their life. Most importantly the are warlike when they don’t get what they want. Utopia through violence is proof they are warlike greedy humans.

    Only in fairytales do humans live happily ever after... Ain’t going to happen...
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    Re: Socialism Past and Present-Fake or The Best Answe

    Quote Originally Posted by tucker View Post
    The radical leftist have antifa, BLM and mobs they could all be described as anarchists.


    (“Anarchy

    A form of society based around the lack of a ruling class and an emphasis on individual freedom and equality. An ideal form of anarchy would involve a cooperative socialist gift economy, in which goods are freely produced and distributed according to need. Crime would not be the huge problem most people would imagine. Anyone with a basic knowledge of history knows that crime was never a huge problem until urbanization and then industrialization. A focus on community and civic responsibility would nearly eliminate violent crime (smaller, tightly knit communities have virtually no crime, even today). Property crime would be even a less of a problem, given that no one has more than anyone else and destruction of public property would be destruction of one's own property. In case a crime is committed, any and every member of the community is capable of either preventing the crime before hand or apprehending the criminal afterwards, a system which worked for thousands of years before police forces became common during the Industrial Revolution. A common argument against such a system is that "human nature" would eventually lead to a return of capitalism and the establishment of government. This is not a part of "human nature", however. Human beings have almost no instincts at birth. A tendency towards government and capitalism is a product of societal conditioning, not a natural inclination. There have been examples of similar systems working in the real world, including many in Spain during the Revolutions of the late 1930's. Living standards generally increased in these areas.
    "I had dropped more or less by chance into the only community of any size in Western Europe where political consciousness and disbelief in capitalism were more normal than their opposites. Up here in Aragon one was among tens of thousands of people, mainly though not entirely of working-class origin, all living at the same level and mingling on terms of equality. In theory it was perfect equality, and even in practice it was not far from it. There is a sense in which it would be true to say that one was experiencing a foretaste of Socialism, by which I mean that the prevailing mental atmosphere was that of Socialism. Many of the normal motives of civilized life--snobbishness, money-grubbing, fear of the boss, etc.--had simply ceased to exist. The ordinary class-division of society had disappeared to an extent that is almost unthinkable in the money-tainted air of England; there was no one there except the peasants and ourselves, and no one owned anyone else as his master." -George Orwell, on an anarchist community in Spain during the Revolution”)

    It sounds good to some people. It doesn’t work they don’t tell you about the rich few that manipulate the sheeple. Anybody who thinks humans can live in a utopia where everybody is equal doesn’t know much about human nature. Humans except the demorats are competitive, egar to improve their life. Most importantly the are warlike when they don’t get what they want. Utopia through violence is proof they are warlike greedy humans.

    Only in fairytales do humans live happily ever after... Ain’t going to happen...
    Better be careful Tucker. Bringing up Spain in your rebuttal to bb may get Dutch confused the way he got confused when bb rebutted your recent immigration post about trump being stopped by the courts and he used the UN policy on immigration to illustrate his point.

    I think you are using the Tucker Carlson false equivalence schtick.

    No one says Antifa doesn’t exist or that they are a good thing. But they exist in direct reaction to the nazis creeping into your party as supporters and candidates. And they don’t kill people the way your guys do.

    Blm is a false story. They exist based on a greivance and are protected by the 1st. Same goes for your whiney trump mobs
    fear tactic.

    Next? How about admitting neo nazis are in the trump base and Donny calls them fine people?
    Thomas Jefferson to John Page Fairfeilds Dec: 25. 1762.
    ... But the old-fellows say we must read to gain knowledge; and gain knowledge to make us happy and be admired. Mere jargon! Is there any such thing as happiness in this world? No: And as for admiration I am sure the man who powders most, parfumes most, embroiders most, and talks most nonsense, is most admired.

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    Re: Socialism Past and Present-Fake or The Best Answe

    Quote Originally Posted by buttboy View Post


    Better be careful Tucker. Bringing up Spain in your rebuttal to bb may get Dutch confused the way he got confused when bb rebutted your recent immigration post about trump being stopped by the courts and he used the UN policy on immigration to illustrate his point.

    I think you are using the Tucker Carlson false equivalence schtick.

    No one says Antifa doesn’t exist or that they are a good thing. But they exist in direct reaction to the nazis creeping into your party as supporters and candidates. And they don’t kill people the way your guys do.

    Blm is a false story. They exist based on a greivance and are protected by the 1st. Same goes for your whiney trump mobs
    fear tactic.

    Next? How about admitting neo nazis are in the trump base and Donny calls them fine people?
    Next? How about admitting the truth about your relationship with BongWater?


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    Re: Socialism Past and Present-Fake or The Best Answer

    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez compares Sarah Palin to 'grandpa emails' in Twitter feud

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/oca...gov-mocked-her

    Our favorite new socialist gal... living proof socialists are born with brain damage...
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    Re: Socialism Past and Present-Fake or The Best Answer

    Quote Originally Posted by tucker View Post
    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez compares Sarah Palin to 'grandpa emails' in Twitter feud

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/oca...gov-mocked-her

    Our favorite new socialist gal... living proof socialists are born with brain damage...

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    Re: Socialism Past and Present-Fake or The Best Answer

    ^^ The demorats seem to be in the middle of a butthurt epidemic...
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    Re: Socialism Past and Present-Fake or The Best Answer

    Quote Originally Posted by tucker View Post
    ^^ The demorats seem to be in the middle of a butthurt epidemic...
    Grande Mal ButtHurt epidemic - I really enjoy seeing the utter desperation and grasping at straws of the FSB’s in all this..

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    Re: Socialism Past and Present-Fake or The Best Answer

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    Judge bars US from enforcing Trump administration’s asylum ban

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/jud...ons-asylum-ban


    Jon S. Tigar

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_S._Tigar


    I think most people saw that coming... Tigar? ... British born, San Francisco connection and Bezerkeley educated.... Hmmm ... Do you suppose he just might have socialist leanings...
    listen up, chief justice roberts says, stfu.

    Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts calls out Trump for his attack on a judge

    Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts took a swipe at Donald Trump on Wednesday, saying there are no “Obama judges or Trump judges” after the president attacked the judge who ruled against his attempt to restrict asylum-seekers at the border.

    “We do not have Obama judges or Trump judges, Bush judges or Clinton judges,” Roberts said in a statement. “What we have is an extraordinary group of dedicated judges doing their level best to do equal right to those appearing before them. That independent judiciary is something we should all be thankful for.”
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    Re: Socialism Past and Present-Fake or The Best Answer

    ^^^ Righto. To even begin to believe judges aren't partisan is ridiculously silly. To call them Obama judges instead of lefty progressives or Trump judges instead of righty constitutionalists... well shlt, even an idiot gets the meaning. How saying "Obama judge" is an "attack"... quite a stretch, unless telling the truth is an attack.

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    Re: Socialism Past and Present-Fake or The Best Answer

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutchcedar View Post
    ^^^ Righto. To even begin to believe judges aren't partisan is ridiculously silly. To call them Obama judges instead of lefty progressives or Trump judges instead of righty constitutionalists... well shlt, even an idiot gets the meaning. How saying "Obama judge" is an "attack"... quite a stretch, unless telling the truth is an attack.
    There you go, projecting your thoughts onto judges like you are the jury.

    And yes, Einstein, what trump said was an attack pure and simple. That’s why Roberts made an unusual public statement.
    Thomas Jefferson to John Page Fairfeilds Dec: 25. 1762.
    ... But the old-fellows say we must read to gain knowledge; and gain knowledge to make us happy and be admired. Mere jargon! Is there any such thing as happiness in this world? No: And as for admiration I am sure the man who powders most, parfumes most, embroiders most, and talks most nonsense, is most admired.

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    Re: Socialism Past and Present-Fake or The Best Answer

    Quote Originally Posted by tucker View Post
    ^^ The demorats seem to be in the middle of a butthurt epidemic...

    Really? That’s it? You get called on your constant blm antifa bs and you say butthurt? F man, I wonder how you can sit with all your butthurt posts you make across the day.
    Thomas Jefferson to John Page Fairfeilds Dec: 25. 1762.
    ... But the old-fellows say we must read to gain knowledge; and gain knowledge to make us happy and be admired. Mere jargon! Is there any such thing as happiness in this world? No: And as for admiration I am sure the man who powders most, parfumes most, embroiders most, and talks most nonsense, is most admired.

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    Re: Socialism Past and Present-Fake or The Best Answer

    Quote Originally Posted by buttboy View Post


    Really? That’s it? You get called on your constant blm antifa bs and you say butthurt? F man, I wonder how you can sit with all your butthurt posts you make across the day.

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    Re: Socialism Past and Present-Fake or The Best Answer

    Quote Originally Posted by otoc View Post
    Really? That’s it? You get called on your constant blm antifa bs and you say butthurt? F man, I wonder how you can sit with all your butthurt posts you make across the day.
    Just like Obama, Democrats are falling for the idea of Beto 2020

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/jus...a-of-beto-2020

    Betomania... Go Beto go...






    A light weight pretty boy just like Obambi with white skin he’s going nowhere, think skin color. Trump would shred him like a block of cheese... The video? Have you and BB been cross dressing...
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