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    these are real crimes that are being charged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baghdad bob View Post
    i guess you can continue wailing about the hoax until you can prove it. and if you don't investigate, you can't be proven wrong.
    Justice Department hasn’t interviewed key Russia probe witnesses



    nothing from you on the recent arrest of the two us citizens from the ukraine, who are known to guliani. The charges include conspiracy, falsifying records and making false statements to the Federal Election Commission. not to say connected with getting dirt on the bidens.

    2 Giuliani Associates Arrested On Campaign Finance Violations
    Heh.. real crimes.. 2017

    Watchdog files FEC complaint over alleged DNC-Ukraine meeting on Trump oppo
    "The most dangerous myth is the demagoguery that business can be made to pay a larger share, thus relieving the individual. Politicians preaching this are either deliberately dishonest, or economically illiterate, and either one should scare us...
    Only people pay taxes, and people pay as consumers every tax that is assessed against a business."


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    ha, just another conspiracy deflection without any charges. fact spent most of it's time and resources chasing hillary's emails. that's what has got trump in all this trouble. even if it was true, white house would be guilty too and along with abuse of power.

    george soros ...................... Rudy’s Big Plan to Defend Trump on Ukraine: Play the George Soros Card

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    Fake or Fact

    Mexico halts caravan of 2,000 migrants bound for US; critics call roundup a 'human hunt'

    https://www.foxnews.com/world/mexico...-united-states


    'El Chapo' rival charged with drug crimes, leading 'continuing criminal enterprise'

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/vicente-c...tel-indictment


    Mexican drug cartels fueling meth comeback in US, with seizures at 'historically high levels'

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/meth-bord...n-drug-cartels

    CRIMEPublished 1 day ago
    ICE: Man accused of shooting transgender woman was previously deported

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/ice-man-a...ously-deported

    There’s daily news from the southern border. Any comment I make will be deleted... I’m sure you’ll be able to sort through it and figure it out for yourself... Human Hunt, exercise in cruelty...
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    AG Barr blasts 'militant secularists' in speech on religious freedom

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ag-...ligious-freeom

    Just one of the attacks on the first amendment... The day is coming when you’ll be put in jail when you speak against the socialist/communist radical left. I sure am glad the second will never disappear without a lot of violence and bloodshed... It’s there to stay... The guardian of the constitution... The British gave up the right to bear arms. One day they will be very sorry... Foolish...


    First amendment freedom of religion

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    * First Amendment: Freedom of Expression and Religion. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
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    Ah yes, "attack on religious freedoms." Translation: we want to discriminate against groups we don't like using religion as a cover. But only if we are Christian. Muslims aren't allowed to discriminate, obviously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meridian View Post
    Ah yes, "attack on religious freedoms." Translation: we want to discriminate against groups we don't like using religion as a cover. But only if we are Christian. Muslims aren't allowed to discriminate, obviously.

    Your statement defines the lefts cult of the left perfectly.

    On the subject of Muslims, they get a pass by the apologists on the left over everything. When was the last time some liberal activist/gay/trans persons tried to make a Muslim baker make a gay wedding cake? Or tried to participate in a service in a mosque dressed as an Iman? Or tried to make a mosque marry them? When was the last time the left protested the Muslim treatment of gays and women for that matter who they treat like cattle as opposed to gays they simply chuck off rooftops or hang overseas. And the woke movement here in the states was led by who intil her antisemitism became intolerable??? Linda Sarsour.

    Willful ignorance.
    "The most dangerous myth is the demagoguery that business can be made to pay a larger share, thus relieving the individual. Politicians preaching this are either deliberately dishonest, or economically illiterate, and either one should scare us...
    Only people pay taxes, and people pay as consumers every tax that is assessed against a business."


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    Quote Originally Posted by tucker View Post
    AG Barr blasts 'militant secularists' in speech on religious freedom

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ag-...ligious-freeom

    Just one of the attacks on the first amendment... The day is coming when you’ll be put in jail when you speak against the socialist/communist radical left. I sure am glad the second will never disappear without a lot of violence and bloodshed... It’s there to stay... The guardian of the constitution... The British gave up the right to bear arms. One day they will be very sorry... Foolish...


    First amendment freedom of religion

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    * First Amendment: Freedom of Expression and Religion. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
    much of it will be sorted out in a couple of months. you can get same-sex-married on Saturday and be fired from your job and evicted from your apartment for being gay on Monday. we will get to see what the true meaning of the word conservative. then wait and see how barr interprets the court's ruling.

    The Supreme Court Is About to Hear 3 LGBT Rights Cases That Are Way Bigger than Marriage Equality

    For all five of the Court’s conservatives, these cases present a serious test: stick with their conservative political ideology or go with their usual method of reading statutes based on the plain text of the law. If they follow politics, they will rule against LGBT rights but all-but ignore the word “sex” in the statute. But if they read the word “sex” as it should be read, they will be abandoning their politics.

    Whatever happens with this conservative dilemma, the cases being argued tomorrow are of monumental significance. A ruling for the employees will mean that LGBT people will be protected from discrimination at work and possibly even beyond. Many other laws protect against sex discrimination, such as in housing or education, and it would be an easy case to make to apply an employment ruling to these other contexts. A ruling against the employees could be disastrous, both in putting the Court’s stamp of approval on bigotry but also in possibly gutting various protections against sex discrimination.
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    125 House Republicans co-sponsor resolution to censure Schiff over 'parody' reading of Trump-Zelensky call

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/125...-zelensky-call


    If he was a republican he would censured in a heartbeat... Radical Left democrat no chance in Hades... ‘Tis a shame... :rolleyes



    MEDIAPublished 1 hour ago
    Gov. Andrew Cuomo uses uncensored N-word during live interview: 'Pardon my language'

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/andrew-cuomo-n-word

    I’m tellin’ on him ... I’m in Fall Training for the Democrats Whistleblower Team...
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    Quote Originally Posted by tucker View Post
    125 House Republicans co-sponsor resolution to censure Schiff over 'parody' reading of Trump-Zelensky call

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/125...-zelensky-call


    If he was a republican he would censured in a heartbeat... Radical Left democrat no chance in Hades... ‘Tis a shame... :rolleyes
    I’ve grown tired of your amplification of what you think of democrats:radical left. Yes ‘they’ are to the left of you.

    As to the victimization of your party, with ‘if he were a republican’ nonsense. Try some facts.

    Over the last 100 years there have been 6 censures in the House of Representatives. 1 was a republican. Do the math.

    I hope the house republicans force a vote to censure Schiff. I’d like them to show how Schiff’s parody was wrong while Rudy’s antics continue to be ignored.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tucker View Post
    125 House Republicans co-sponsor resolution to censure Schiff over 'parody' reading of Trump-Zelensky call

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/125...-zelensky-call


    If he was a republican he would censured in a heartbeat... Radical Left democrat no chance in Hades... ‘Tis a shame... :rolleyes



    MEDIAPublished 1 hour ago
    Gov. Andrew Cuomo uses uncensored N-word during live interview: 'Pardon my language'

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/andrew-cuomo-n-word

    I’m tellin’ on him ... I’m in Fall Training for the Democrats Whistleblower Team...

    So I watched a Baier interview with Lyndsey Graham. It seems Trump showed Graham letter he sent to Erdoğan Urging him not to invade. When you have limited resources in the area it might be a good idea to withdraw those forces. If you want war there’s only one sensible way to do it. Overwhelming power that destroys erdogan’s armed forces no patty cake nonsense. It gives you the best chance of winning and it reduces casualties... Erdogan and his troops are ISLAMIC Extremists and Putin buttboys. Maybe the pentagon and the generals should look before they leap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tucker View Post
    So I watched a Baier interview with Lyndsey Graham. It seems Trump showed Graham letter he sent to Erdoğan Urging him not to invade. When you have limited resources in the area it might be a good idea to withdraw those forces. If you want war there’s only one sensible way to do it. Overwhelming power that destroys erdogan’s armed forces no patty cake nonsense. It gives you the best chance of winning and it reduces casualties... Erdogan and his troops are ISLAMIC Extremists and Putin buttboys. Maybe the pentagon and the generals should look before they leap.
    Funny. That’s not how the whitehouse described it...
    Statement from the Press Secretary
    FOREIGN POLICY
    Issued on: October 6, 2019
    menuALL NEWS
    Today, President Donald J. Trump spoke with President Recep Tayyip Erdogan of Turkey by telephone. Turkey will soon be moving forward with its long-planned operation into Northern Syria. The United States Armed Forces will not support or be involved in the operation, and United States forces, having defeated the ISIS territorial “Caliphate,” will no longer be in the immediate area.

    The United States Government has pressed France, Germany, and other European nations, from which many captured ISIS fighters came, to take them back, but they did not want them and refused. The United States will not hold them for what could be many years and great cost to the United States taxpayer. Turkey will now be responsible for all ISIS fighters in the area captured over the past two years in the wake of the defeat of the territorial “Caliphate” by the United States
    We left. Russia, Turkey and Syria now have all the intel we developed with the Kurdish fighters.

    Meanwhile, turkey just got nailed bypassing sanctions against Iran.

    //trump is doing a great job watching out for U.S. interests//
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    Quote Originally Posted by tucker View Post
    So I watched a Baier interview with Lyndsey Graham. It seems Trump showed Graham letter he sent to Erdoğan Urging him not to invade. When you have limited resources in the area it might be a good idea to withdraw those forces. If you want war there’s only one sensible way to do it. Overwhelming power that destroys erdogan’s armed forces no patty cake nonsense. It gives you the best chance of winning and it reduces casualties... Erdogan and his troops are ISLAMIC Extremists and Putin buttboys. Maybe the pentagon and the generals should look before they leap.
    Pelosi holding off on vote for impeachment inquiry for now: 'We're not here to call bluffs'

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/15/polit...ote/index.html

    ”This is not a game for us. This is deadly serious, and we're on a path that is getting us to a path to truth and timetable that respects our Constitution."
    Hmmm... Deadly Serious... That’s a odd choice of words... I wonder if she means Civil War... At this point nothing would surprise me. After Trump takes office for the second time all bets are off. He could be the second president to preside during a civil war... So much hate flows through the Democratic Party and MSM anything could happen. Four more years of Trump just might push them through all the boundary lines...
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    Quote Originally Posted by tucker View Post
    Pelosi holding off on vote for impeachment inquiry for now: 'We're not here to call bluffs'

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/15/polit...ote/index.html



    Hmmm... Deadly Serious... That’s a odd choice of words... I wonder if she means Civil War... At this point nothing would surprise me. After Trump takes office for the second time all bets are off. He could be the second president to preside during a civil war... So much hate flows through the Democratic Party and MSM anything could happen. Four more years of Trump just might push them through all the boundary lines...
    Interesting you choose to project what trump and his supporters openly state as somehow what democrats wish.

    Armed Militias Are Taking Trump’s Civil War Tweets Seriously

    Oathkeepers members at the 2017 Unite the Right Rally in Charlottesville, Virginia (Source: Flickr/Anthony Crider)

    By Mary B. McCord Wednesday, October 2, 2019, 1:31 PM

    Over the weekend, the president sent a tweet that seemed to warn of civil war if he were to be impeached and removed from office
    ...If the Democrats are successful in removing the President from office (which they will never be), it will cause a Civil War like fracture in this Nation from which our Country will never heal.” Pastor Robert Jeffress, @FoxNews
    Although the president was quoting Pastor Robert Jeffress’s comments on Fox News, he was adopting them as his own.

    It might seem tempting to dismiss this language as of a piece with President Trump’s typical Twitter rhetoric. But it is worth paying particular attention to this tweet—because among the people who read it were militia groups enthusiastic about exactly what Trump portended. And while no violence has yet resulted from the president’s tweet, it would be foolish to underestimate the power of Trump’s comments to call rogue militias to action, particularly if there is an impeachment and he continues to use this rhetoric to fan the flames. In the days after his civil war tweet, he went on to use similarly incendiary language, referring to impeachment proceedings as a “COUP.”

    Consider the Oath Keepers group, a far-right armed militia. Calling on its 24,000 Twitter followers to read the president’s whole tweet thread, the Oath Keepers account posted:
    Oath Keepers
    @Oathkeepers
    Here’s the money quote from that thread. This is the truth. This is where we are. We ARE on the verge of a HOT civil war. Like in 1859. That’s where we are. And the Right has ZERO trust or respect for anything the left is doing. We see THEM as illegitimate too.@StewartRhodesOK https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...77539653771264
    Donald J. Trump

    @realDonaldTrump
    Replying to @realDonaldTrump
    ....If the Democrats are successful in removing the President from office (which they will never be), it will cause a Civil War like fracture in this Nation from which our Country will never heal.” Pastor Robert Jeffress, @FoxNews
    Before this tweet, the Oath Keepers account tweeted that, under the U.S. Constitution, “the militia (that’s us) can be called forth ‘to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions.’ ... “All he has to do is call us up. We WILL answer the call.” Other Oath Keeper tweets also hint at violence: One states that “their favorite rifle is the AR 15.”

    According to the Oath Keepers’s webpage, the organization is “a non-partisan association of current and formerly serving military, police, and first responders, who pledge to fulfill the oath all military and police take to ‘defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic,’” while declaring that they “will not obey unconstitutional orders.” The Anti-Defamation League, by contrast, describes the group as “an anti-government right-wing fringe organization” whose members have appeared “as self-appointed armed guards” at various places around the country, in defiance of what they deem to be unconstitutional government action. Last month, the group sought “security volunteers” from their membership and “other capable patriots” to escort Trump supporters attending a New Mexico rally “to protect them from potential leftist violence.” And last year, the Oath Keepers announced its “Spartan Training Group program,” with the goal of “form[ing] training groups in as many states as possible” to create “a pool of trained, organized volunteers who will be able to serve as the local militia under the command of a patriotic governor loyal to the Constitution, or if called upon by President Trump to serve the nation” (emphasis in original).

    The Oath Keepers are far from the only militia group that vocally supports deploying potential force in aid of the president. In November 2018, after Trump pledged to send up to 15,000 U.S. troops to the border to deal with the approaching caravan of Central American migrants, the militia group known as “The Minuteman Project” published an “URGENT CALL FOR TEXAS BORDER OBSERVATION DUTY” to cover the 2,000-mile border from San Diego to Brownsville, Texas. According to U.S. Army documents obtained by Newsweek at the time, the military expressed its concern internally about the presence of unauthorized militias along the border, warning that protests occurring at points of entry historically had been peaceful, “unless extreme right or left groups attend.” The Minuteman Project’s co-founder, Jim Gilchrist, cautioned potential volunteers that their adversaries were “US-based PROPAGANDA organizations like the American Civil Liberties Union, the Southern Poverty Law Center, People without Borders” and many more groups like them. He further warned members to “use extreme caution when confronted by mainstream media” because “they are not your friends.”

    Earlier this year, after Trump’s reelection campaign repeatedly ran ads quoting Trump’s references to an “invasion” on the southern border, another group—the United Constitutional Patriots—set up camp at the New Mexico/Mexico border. Without any legal authorization, this group assumed the duty of U.S. Customs and Border Protection to stop and detain migrants, all while heavily armed and dressed in military fatigues. In March and April 2019, a spokesperson for the group, Jim Benvie, regularly posted livestream videos on Facebook showing militia members chasing and capturing migrants while armed with assault rifles, and detaining them until they could be turned over to U.S. officials. In other posts, the United Constitutional Patriots described themselves as combatants in a “war” raging along the border due to migrants’ “invasion” of the country and actively sought to recruit people with military or law enforcement experience to join them. One such recruit, upon observing migrants while on “patrol” at the border, reportedly grabbed his AR-15 and asked his fellow militia member, “Why are we just apprehending them and not lining them up and shooting them?” In April, after the group’s “national commander” was arrested on unrelated charges and the Union Pacific Railroad ordered the group off of its property, significant media attention exposed the militia’s activities and it reconstituted itself as the Guardian Patriots, decamped to private land with the owners’ consent, and closed its public Facebook account.

    Both of these armed militias took action at least in part in response to Trump’s rhetoric about the need to secure the southern border. Now that the president has invoked the idea of civil war, there is a risk that armed groups will take heed of this language too, whenever the president suggests that it is time.

    Federal criminal law prohibits “rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof,” including incitement or assistance to such rebellion or insurrection. It also prohibits conspiring to overthrow the U.S. government, levy war against it or oppose its authority by force. Based on the organization’s declared mission, there’s little doubt that the Oath Keepers would view any impeachment action by congress as “unconstitutional” and therefore not to be obeyed. Although the group’s current tweets come close to calling for rebellion or insurrection should that happen, there’s been no indication that the U.S. Department of Justice is investigating. Are the militias drawing up plans for possible civil war, for example? Are they training? Are they stockpiling weapons? These are things that law enforcement should be investigating, whether under federal law or state law.

    Although it is widely believed that the Second Amendment protects the right to form private militias, it does no such thing. The Supreme Court made this clear in its 2008 decision in District of Columbia v. Heller, explicitly reaffirming its own 1886 holding that “the Second Amendment ... does not prevent the prohibition of private paramilitary organizations.” Indeed, they are prohibited by state constitutional provisions or statutes in all 50 states.

    The constitutions of 48 states include provisions that require the military to be at all times subordinate to the civil authority. That means that private, unregulated and unauthorized militias—operating wholly outside of the civilian governmental authority and public accountability—are prohibited by state law. There is good reason for this. As prominent historian and scholar A.E. •••• Howard wrote in 1974 in “Commentaries on the Constitution of Virginia,” the Virginia constitution’s ban on private militias “ensures the right of all citizens ... to live free from the fear of an alien soldiery commanded by men who are not responsible to law and the political process.”
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    London rush-hour commuters yank climate-change protesters from roofs of trains

    https://www.foxnews.com/world/london...arl-tube-train

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