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    Re: What Is 2019-2020 Reality Fake OR Fact

    Quote Originally Posted by tucker View Post
    ... "60 Minutes" says Democrat tactics are causing "mistrust in the media"...

    You broke my irony meter again. I'll remind you that it is the Right that rebranded outright lies as "alternative truth".

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    Re: What Is 2019-2020 Reality Fake OR Fact

    ^^ 12 of 13 million is the combined total... Major networks...

    Gregg Jarrett: Trump impeachment based on unreliable presumptions, rumor and innuendo – Not facts

    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/greg...endo-not-facts

    The words assume and presume both mean that you take something for granted as being true, but the difference is based on how certain you are. Assume is typically used in situations where someone takes something as the truth with a very low level of certainty or with no proof at all. Presume usually involves a higher level of certainty and is used in situations where someone makes an educated guess based on reasonable proof or evidence.
    Which amendment says you are innocent until proven guilty?
    In the United States, a person is considered innocent until proven guilty. The 14th amendment to the US Constitution guarantees to every person, aliens included, “equal protection under the law.”
    Apparently there’s a conundrum in the gray matter of the democrats brain. They have the impeachment presumption of guilt blues... I could presume Meridian has an IQ higher than Einstein... or ... I could presume it’s in single digits... Well probably no on both counts... I could presume otoc assassinated JFK... or I could presume otoc can’t hit the broadside of a barn with a rifle. Obviously it must be the broadside of a barn. I think that’s why proof beyond a shadow of doubt is the standard...
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    Re: What Is 2019-2020 Reality Fake OR Fact

    Quote Originally Posted by Meridian View Post
    The number of people watching ANYTHING pales in comparison to the time of Nixon, because there are about twenty times as many channels per viewer million than there were then which means viewer s are spread far more thinly. Basic maths. In this day age that is actually a big number for some boring politics.
    that also goes for their comparison of fox being the number one news network. they are within the right wing viewers.

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    ^^ When liberals get tired of the MsM carnival they watch Fox...

    For all the latest in Elitist Fathead Diplomatic Tattletale tune into

    Trump impeachment hearings day five: live updates

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tru...e-live-updates

    Little wonder why Obama’s State Department was a National Security nightmare... Hillary & Kerry... :rolleyes
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    Sondland says his family, businesses receiving threats over role in Trump impeachment inquiry

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/son...chment-inquiry

    The democrats and the usual reprisal... Stayed tuned soon to turn violent... :rolleyes ....


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    Where is Charles Manson's ranch?
    The land is now part of the Santa Susana Pass State Historic Park. Spahn Ranch is notorious for having been the primary residence of Charles Manson and his followers, the "Manson Family", for much of 1968 and 1969
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    Re: What Is 2019-2020 Reality Fake OR Fact

    Quote Originally Posted by tucker View Post
    ^^ When liberals get tired of the MsM carnival they watch Fox...

    Fox is part of the MSM. Just because you agree with it doesn't make it some sort of rebel organisation. It's just as much a part of the MSM as (say) the NYT. When the alt-Right use the expression "MSM" what they mean is: "tells inconvenient truths about people we support."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meridian View Post
    Fox is part of the MSM. Just because you agree with it doesn't make it some sort of rebel organisation. It's just as much a part of the MSM as (say) the NYT. When the alt-Right use the expression "MSM" what they mean is: "tells inconvenient truths about people we support."
    Maybe in Europe but not here. "MSM" means the leftist media over here... pretty much everyone BUT FoxNews, Rush, and the right leaning presence on the web. The term was coined by the right and made popular by El Rushbo. You're just wrong here. As Reagan said, you know a lot of things that aren't true.

    Forty nine out of fifty Americans did not watch the Democrats' presidential candidates' debate last night. The enthusiasm is amazing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meridian View Post
    Fox is part of the MSM. Just because you agree with it doesn't make it some sort of rebel organisation. It's just as much a part of the MSM as (say) the NYT. When the alt-Right use the expression "MSM" what they mean is: "tells inconvenient truths about people we support."
    As you can tell in spite of rushbo, you are correct. And you can read the effect of that echo chamber.
    Thomas Jefferson to John Page Fairfeilds Dec: 25. 1762.
    ... But the old-fellows say we must read to gain knowledge; and gain knowledge to make us happy and be admired. Mere jargon! Is there any such thing as happiness in this world? No: And as for admiration I am sure the man who powders most, parfumes most, embroiders most, and talks most nonsense, is most admired.

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    bribery seems to be going around in right-wing democracies these days. does this sound familiar?

    Israeli leader Benjamin Netanyahu will be indicted on charges of bribery, fraud and breach of trust

    Speaking in Jerusalem on Thursday night, Netanyahu described the charges as "an attempted coup against a Prime Minister."
    Beginning in late 2012, prosecutors say Netanyahu made "hundreds of demands, sometimes on a daily basis" for more positive news coverage, especially during election periods. On election day in 2015, prosecutors say Netanyahu demanded that the website feature prominently a video in which he declared, "The Arabs [are] going to the polls in droves."
    Netanyahu argued that the investigations against him were unfair and that numerous details of the cases were leaked to the media. As the indictments drew closer, his attacks on the judiciary, the police and state prosecutors escalated.
    now there is a favor coming from his like minded friend who keeps his eyes on the big stuff.

    Why would Trump reverse US policy on Israeli settlements? Good question.

    Does it deliver a hefty domestic political payoff, reverse an Obama administration position, upturn international law and irritate the European Union? If so, it's probably a Trump administration foreign policy decision.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutchcedar View Post
    Maybe in Europe but not here. "MSM" means the leftist media over here... pretty much everyone BUT FoxNews, Rush, and the right leaning presence on the web. The term was coined by the right and made popular by El Rushbo. You're just wrong here. As Reagan said, you know a lot of things that aren't true.

    Forty nine out of fifty Americans did not watch the Democrats' presidential candidates' debate last night. The enthusiasm is amazing.

    Ratings fall flat as most Americans tune out impeachment spectacle

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...-most-america/

    Astounding ratings for the Apprentice Impeachment Show... The population is 330 million ... 320 million weren’t watching... Rolf!
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    Quote Originally Posted by otoc View Post
    As you can tell in spite of rushbo, you are correct. And you can read the effect of that echo chamber.
    I suppose the Washington Times and New York Post are in the MSM as well, at least in your attempt to cloud the left wing MSM. Clearly you know otherwise and have said otherwise, but echo chambering the uber-left mantra seems to be your critical thinking of choice lately. Carry on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutchcedar View Post
    but echo chambering the uber-left mantra
    Again: what ultra-Left mantra? Have you seen anyone here advocating the workers' control of the means of production? Centralising food production? That is what ultra-left means. Not far-Right is not the same as Left. The Fallacy of the Excluded Middle again. Bernie Saunders is Centre-Right, veering towards the Centre. Just because he is left of YOU does not make him left wing.

    And in case you had forgotten, MSM means Main Stream Media (alt-Right clearly struggle with basic grammar). So of course Fox is part of that. As is any publication or broadcast with widespread coverage and mainstream advertising. If you mean Right Wing, say so.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Meridian View Post
    Again: what ultra-Left mantra? Have you seen anyone here advocating the workers' control of the means of production? Centralising food production? That is what ultra-left means. Not far-Right is not the same as Left. The Fallacy of the Excluded Middle again. Bernie Saunders is Centre-Right, veering towards the Centre. Just because he is left of YOU does not make him left wing.

    And in case you had forgotten, MSM means Main Stream Media (alt-Right clearly struggle with basic grammar). So of course Fox is part of that. As is any publication or broadcast with widespread coverage and mainstream advertising. If you mean Right Wing, say so.


    Also:
    European definitions don't apply here. Sorry. For example, in America socialism is "far left" and Bernie Sanders is a socialist, and says so himself.

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    Re: What Is 2019-2020 Reality Fake OR Fact

    ISSUES
    Bernie Sanders on the issues
    I’m running for president so that, when we are in the White House, the movement we build together can achieve economic, racial, social and environmental justice for all.

    https://berniesanders.com/issues/

    Me thinks Ole Uncle Bernie is a perfect example of a textbook communist. Since the beginning days of Castro and Che he has supported the values of communism. Read through his many campaign promises what they are is a communist prescription for big government total control and big brother like Globalism. Bernie + Liz make many promises that are impossible to fulfill. What the promises really mean is extreme poverty for the lower class and more importantly the total destruction of the middle class.


    Honoring Our Commitment to Veterans

    * Eliminate the VA benefits backlog, fully fund and resource the VA, and reverse the disastrous privatization of services for veterans.
    * Fill the nearly 50,000 vacancies at the VA in Bernie’s first year.
    * Provide at least $62 billion in new funding to repair, modernize and rebuild VA infrastructure.
    * Expand the VA’s Caregivers Program as well as mental health services for veterans.
    * Reform harmful VA regulations that restrict access to care and benefits based on character of discharge.
    Just as the Veterans Administration is starting to make a difference with the availability of the private sector for care Ole Bernie the grinch wants to destroy that progress. The truth is Ole Bernie isn’t very fond of active duty or veterans of the past. He’s a fraud from his gray hair all the way down to the bunions on his big toes...
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    Friendly warning: from this moment, whenever you double post I will delete both versions, not just one.

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