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  1. #4336
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    Re: "GOOBEES BAR AND GRILL"-NOW OPEN!

    Lemme slug that down real quick and then sneak back to work.
    YIKES!!
    Thats longer than my arm bejesus.

  2. #4337
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    Re: "GOOBEES BAR AND GRILL"-NOW OPEN!

    Looked kinda small to me .. not the full yard
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    Re: "GOOBEES BAR AND GRILL"-NOW OPEN!

    Ttt

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    Re: "GOOBEES BAR AND GRILL"-NOW OPEN!

    i'll chime in on the whole email thing, the post count thing seems like a fair deal, maybe use both the email and post count. if you already meet some post count limit then you may trade without the email rule, if you're under the post count limit then you must abide by the email rule.

    do it a little case by case as well (this may or may not be feasable depending on the number of new members wanting to trade) have mods look over their posts or whatever.

    could something be done to verify a paypal account or possibly and ebay account for cross reference?

    i've been wanting to trade for a few years now but the email thing has always put me off, i know it's not impossible to comply with it, but i'm just put off by it, it's easier to just go somewhere else or pay a little more.
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    Re: "GOOBEES BAR AND GRILL"-NOW OPEN!

    Don't understand your reluctance, those that buy look for posts, heat and email. Those that want to sell comply, nothing could be easier.
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    Re: "GOOBEES BAR AND GRILL"-NOW OPEN!

    Quote Originally Posted by Britgeezer View Post
    Don't understand your reluctance, those that buy look for posts, heat and email. Those that want to sell comply, nothing could be easier.
    no reluctance at all, i just don't have an email address that fits within the rule, does that make me a troll or a bad seller/buyer? i wouldn't think so.

    i'd be more than willing to verify my identity through some other means, paypal for example.

    seems others agree that the rule has hurt the number of traders, i can't verify that personally as i've never been able to trade here.
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    Re: "GOOBEES BAR AND GRILL"-NOW OPEN!

    i love it..

  8. #4343
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    Re: "GOOBEES BAR AND GRILL"-NOW OPEN!

    Quote Originally Posted by Brandito View Post
    I just don't have an email address that fits within the rule
    Looking at your post count its unlikely you are on dial up, most ISP's offer email accounts which would be compliant - I guess yours doesn't?
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  9. #4344
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    Re: "GOOBEES BAR AND GRILL"-NOW OPEN!

    he's got you there.

  10. #4345
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    Re: "GOOBEES BAR AND GRILL"-NOW OPEN!

    No its not about trying to catch anyone out, the rules are there to protect us all - I got burned once and it took a lot of effort by many to recover my $. Almost everything can be manipulated, it takes multiple layers of protection to do just that - protect.

    Brandito has a high post count, double or so mine in less time, yet I have never seen his name before, we obviously hang in different sections. That's OK, but it helps to explain why post count has no real bearing on quality of a potential trade, only your previous trading history or if none at least the knowledge that you can be traced in the event of a problem, can be considered.

    Selling / Buying here is relatively safe, since together the rules put off most bad guys, or at least they seem to prefer to go elsewhere. However even when you comply you have to earn acceptance here, hence the importance of Heat and the ship first suggestions. I agree they look onerous when you first start but once you qualify - the relative safety is appreciated.

    Paypal / EBay history is not a viable reference since they will not disclose private information and frankly do little to nothing to enforce even their own rules - I caught an Ebay seller fraudulently having a friend boost his auctions - no real action was taken.

    So my vote is to keep the rules as is (or tighten them), we are a closed shop which I see Brandito from his affiliation will understand, this has benefits and disadvantages - I think there are more of the former.
    Last edited by Britgeezer; 08-20-2007 at 03:10 PM.
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    Re: "GOOBEES BAR AND GRILL"-NOW OPEN!

    Quote Originally Posted by Britgeezer View Post
    Looking at your post count its unlikely you are on dial up, most ISP's offer email accounts which would be compliant - I guess yours doesn't?
    the bill doesn't come in my name, and not only that i'll be moving soon anyways, so even if i did get an account set up for me what protection would that give anyone?

    i don't see the email rule as a safety net as much as i see it as a barrier to getting more people trading, legitimate traders mind you.

    if you're that worried about big bad Brandito, i'll snail mail you a self addressed envelope with stamps that you can use to send me the secret trading post password, then when i receive said password i will confirm it with you, and thus you will know my whereabouts.

    to your comment of never seeing me on the boards, i've had my name changed a couple times now, started as BMXer, then went by SuBX3r0 for a LONG time (see sig), now just recently i used the name change thread to get Brandito. though i must say, i post in the majority of the forums, or at least lurk in them and this is the first time i've seen your name to my recollection.

    ah well, i guess i'll stick to ebay, where i'm accepted.
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    Re: "GOOBEES BAR AND GRILL"-NOW OPEN!

    Ok
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  13. #4348
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    Re: "GOOBEES BAR AND GRILL"-NOW OPEN!

    Bump and cold ones all around.

    All that discussion is now resolved^^ and everyone can thank the hardworking moderators here that made it happen.

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    Re: "GOOBEES BAR AND GRILL"-NOW OPEN!

    2 drink minimum happy hour. Anyone thirsty?


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    Re: "GOOBEES BAR AND GRILL"-NOW OPEN!

    it'll be warm by the time you get to the bottom of that.
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