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The Lightning Round If you're looking for a highly charged debate, this is the place to find it. But be forewarned, rules infractions are taken very seriously here.

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Old 10-22-2009, 01:08 PM
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libertarians are terrorists

http://www.newworldorderinfo.com/pol...re-terrorists/

March 12, 2009
Ron Paul, Bob Barr, Chuck Baldwin, Libertarians are Terrorists


Secret State Police Report: Ron Paul, Bob Barr, Chuck Baldwin, Libertarians are Terrorists

Alex Jones has received a secret report distributed by the Missouri Information Analysis Center (MIAC) entitled “The Modern Militia Movement” and dated February 20, 2009. A footer on the document indicates it is “unclassified” but “law enforcement sensitive,” in other words not for public consumption. A copy of the report was sent to Jones by an anonymous Missouri police officer.

The MIAC report specifically describes supporters of presidential candidates Ron Paul, Chuck Baldwin, and Bob Barr as “militia” influenced terrorists and instructs the Missouri police to be on the lookout for supporters displaying bumper stickers and other paraphernalia associated with the Constitutional, Campaign for Liberty, and Libertarian parties.

“Missouri Information Analysis Center (MIAC) provides a public safety partnership consisting of local, state and federal agencies, as well as the public sector and private entities that will collect, evaluate, analyze, and disseminate information and intelligence to the agencies tasked with Homeland Security responsibilities in a timely, effective, and secure manner,” explains the MIAC website. “MIAC is the mechanism to collect incident reports of suspicious activities to be evaluated and analyzed in an effort to identify potential trends or patterns of terrorist or criminal operations within the state of Missouri. MIAC will also function as a vehicle for two-way communication between federal, state and local law enforcement community within our region.”

MIAC is part of the federal “fusion” effort now underway around the country. “As of February 2009, there were 58 fusion centers around the country. The Department has deployed 31 officers as of December 2008 and plans to have 70 professionals deployed by the end of 2009. The Department has provided more than $254 million from FY 2004-2007 to state and local governments to support the centers,” explains the Department of Homeland Security on its website. Missouri is mentioned as a participant in this federal “intelligence” effort.

Last month, the ACLU issued a news release highlighting the activity of a fusion center in Texas as the “latest example of inappropriate police intelligence operations targeting political, religious and social activists for investigation,” in particular “Muslim civil rights organizations and anti-war protest groups.”

The MIAC report does not concentrate on Muslim terrorists, but rather on the so-called “militia movement” and conflates it with supporters of Ron Paul, Chuck Baldwin, Bob Barr, the so-called patriot movement and other political activist organizations opposed to the North American Union and the New World Order. The MIAC document is a classic guilt by association effort designed to demonize legitimate political activity that stands in opposition to the New World Order and its newly enshrined front man, Barack Obama.

In September of 2008, Missouri sheriffs and prosecutors organized truth squads to intimidate people opposed to Obama and threatened to arrest and prosecute anybody who ran “misleading television ads.” Missouri governor Matt Blunt eventually denounced the use of “police state tactics” on the part of the Obama-Biden campaign.

MIAC claims members of a “rightwing” militia movement organized in the 1990s — generally in response to the Oklahoma City bombing and the events at Waco — “continuously exploit world events in order to increase participation in their movements. Due to the current economical and political situation, a lush environment for militia activity has been created” and supposedly exploited by “constitutionalists” and “white supremacists,” the latter an oft-employed canard used to demonize activists as dangerous and potentially violent lunatics.

MIAC notes many of the political issues cited by the so-called patriot movement — the Ammunition Accountability Act, the impending economic collapse of the government, the possibility of a constitutional convention, the North American Union, Obama’s “Universal Service Program,” and the implementation of RFID, issues that are not limited to the patriot movement but are shared by a wide array of political activists.

The MIAC document includes a map of the North American Union not dissimilar from one released by NASCO, the North America SuperCorridor Coalition (see the NASCO map here).

The MIAC report is similar to one created by the Phoenix Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Joint Terrorism Task Force during the Clinton administration (see page one and page two of the document). The FBI document explicitly designates “defenders” of the Constitution as “right-wing extremists.” The MIAC report expands significantly on the earlier document.

Article written by Kurt Nimmo
Infowars
March 12, 2009
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Old 10-22-2009, 01:54 PM
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Re: libertarians are terrorists

Proud to be a terrorist. Vote Ron Paul 2012.
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Old 10-22-2009, 08:34 PM
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Re: libertarians are terrorists

Say terrorist often enough and everyone will think there is a terrorist problem.
Quick, everyone lock yourself in your home so your safe!

US Governments excuse for the war machine and removal of liberties. Of course they want to relate Liberty with Terrorism, to brainwash you of the exact opposite. NWO needs to be trashed.
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Gads man the guy will be 77 years old in 2012 his time has come and gone !
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Old 10-23-2009, 09:27 AM
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Gads man the guy will be 77 years old in 2012 his time has come and gone !
Hes already committed to running against the king in 2012.
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Old 10-23-2009, 01:58 PM
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Re: libertarians are terrorists

really? i hope he is what he says he is.
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Old 10-23-2009, 03:16 PM
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really? i hope he is what he says he is.
Whats that? The vote-splitter that will ensure another 4 years of Obamanation? I missed the Carter years but see the similarities, I guess we're gonna see Bush I's 2nd term election all over again too.
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Old 10-23-2009, 05:34 PM
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you don't get it. if either the dems or repubs and elected, they will continue the same crap they have been for the last 8 and now going on 12 years.
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Old 10-23-2009, 06:04 PM
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Whats that? The vote-splitter that will ensure another 4 years of Obamanation? I missed the Carter years but see the similarities, I guess we're gonna see Bush I's 2nd term election all over again too.
Republicans have no one to blame but the idiot they had running against BO for their loss in '08. I'd have loved to see the '08 election results had it been Romney running instead of McCain. They forced their If they don't get their act together by 2012 BO will once again inexplicably win the election. I get a laugh every time I hear Republicans bitch about the independents screwing up the election. They blamed Perot in '92 and it now appears they'll blame whoever they can in 2012.

In 2008 all independent parties combined garnered not even 2 million votes. Hardly what I'd call a vote-splitter, yet I've been told by some Republicans that it was those damned Libertarians that helped get BO in. Lol, ok. How half a million votes would have landed McCain a victory when he was almost 10 million short I'll never know.

Bottom line. If the Repubs run another lame duck like McCain in 2012 they'll probably get their asses handed to them on election night again. I'd have loved to see the '08 election results had it been Romney running instead of McCain. I really hope they can run someone worth voting for in 2012. It's the only way they have a chance of getting my vote.
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I said "Bush I" the first, the senior, the decent Bush, NOT the travesty we've had for the last 8 years. I agree, two people lost the republicans 2009, Bush II and McCain.
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Old 10-23-2009, 06:22 PM
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I said "Bush I" the first, the senior, the decent Bush, NOT the travesty we've had for the last 8 years. I agree, two people lost the republicans 2009, Bush II and McCain.
I understand. The point I was making is there are some people in the Republican party blaming lost elections on the independents. I for one very much hope the Repubs will run someone worth my vote in 2012. I'll scream if we get another 4 years of BO.
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Old 10-23-2009, 07:08 PM
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Republicans have no one to blame but the idiot they had running against BO for their loss in '08. I'd have loved to see the '08 election results had it been Romney running instead of McCain. They forced their If they don't get their act together by 2012 BO will once again inexplicably win the election. I get a laugh every time I hear Republicans bitch about the independents screwing up the election. They blamed Perot in '92 and it now appears they'll blame whoever they can in 2012.

In 2008 all independent parties combined garnered not even 2 million votes. Hardly what I'd call a vote-splitter, yet I've been told by some Republicans that it was those damned Libertarians that helped get BO in. Lol, ok. How half a million votes would have landed McCain a victory when he was almost 10 million short I'll never know.

Bottom line. If the Repubs run another lame duck like McCain in 2012 they'll probably get their asses handed to them on election night again. I'd have loved to see the '08 election results had it been Romney running instead of McCain. I really hope they can run someone worth voting for in 2012. It's the only way they have a chance of getting my vote.
perot would have won on the repub ticket... or if the republicans gracefully dropped out. i'm guessing the repubs were actually for all these free trade agreements.
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