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Old 09-23-2003, 02:01 AM
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PC Makes sued over hard drive sizes: FUNNY READING!!

Aight, over at this website:

http://www.ircspy.com/comments.asp?m...ew&id=352&pg=1

There is a short article over why people are suing, and people with comments. THESE PEOPLE ARE SO STUPID! I posted 3-4 times to try to explain everything to them, and they made up really dumb reasons. All of u here at amdmb will enjoy it if you love computers and know everything about hardware.


Hahaha.. tell me what u guys think, and if i'm right or wrong.


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Old 09-23-2003, 02:39 AM
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Oh man That is insane.

Just out of curiousity, why are they sueing the computer builders, why not the HD makers? These people need
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Old 09-23-2003, 02:45 AM
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http://www.amdforums.com/showthread....5&pagenumber=2
bumped it.
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Old 09-23-2003, 01:20 PM
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thats really sad and goes to show the true nature of americans. would you buy a 28.932gb hard drives? i bought a 120gb drive and i can only use 114, but thats better than 113. im not griping. they should be suing them for using slow and crumby hard drives before this. hopefully they'll take dell down.
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Old 09-23-2003, 05:07 PM
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I just made a fool out of that guy. This is what I posted:


You are absolutely correct but you don't have the whole story and you conveniently omitted half of the definition for the word gigabyte. I normally wouldn't devote this much time to a person of your intelligence, but your ignorance absolutely appalls me as does your furious invective against others who are trying to teach you.

Here is a direct quote from Scott Mueller's 13th Edition of "Upgrading and Repairing PCs." If you don't know who Scott Mueller is or doubt his credibility, just google it.

"CAPACITY
Four figures are commonly used in advertising drive capacity:
- Unformatted capacity, in millions of bytes
- Formatted capacity, in millions of bytes
- Unformatted capacity, in megabytes
- Formatted capacity, in megabytes

The term "formatted" in these figures, refers to the low - level (or physical) formatting of the drive. Most manufacturers of ATA/IDE and SCSI drives now report only the formatted capacities because these drives are delivered preformatted. Usually, advertisements and specifications refer to the unformatted or formatted capacity in millions of bytes because these figures are larger than the same capacity expressed in megabytes. This situation generates a great deal of confusion when the user runs FDISK (which reports the total drive capacity in megabytes) and wonders where the missing space is. The question can seem troubling. Fortunately, the answer is easy; it only involves a little math to figure it out.

Perhaps the most common questions I get are concerning "missing" drive capacity. Consider the following example: I just installed a new Seagate ST330630A drive in a system, which is advertised as having 30.6GB capacity. After entering the drive parameters in the BIOS setup (I used the autodetect feature to automate the process), when I went to partition the drive using FDISK, the capacity that was reported by FDISK was less than advertised. "What happened to the other space? The answer is only a few calculations away. By multiplying the drive specification parameters, you get this result:

Total sectors: 59,777,640
Bytes per sector: 512
Total bytes (in decimal megabytes): 30,606
Total bytes (in decimal gigabytes): 30.6
Total bytes (in binary megabytes): 29,188
Total bytes (in binary gigabytes): 28.5
As reported by FDISK: 29,188

All the number in the above table are correct. Drive manfucaturers usually report drive capacity in decimal megabytes (millions of bytes) because they result in larger, more impressive sounding numbers, although your BIOS and especially the FDISK drive partitioning software report the capacity in binary megabytes. One decimal megabyte equals 1,048,576 bytes (or 1,024KB, in which each kilobyte is 1,024 bytes). So the bottom line is that because the same abbreviations are often used for both millions of bytes and megabytes, this 30.6GB drive could also be called a 28.5GB drive, depending on how you look at it!"


Now, let's shed some light on your convenient omission of the rest of the dictionary definition for gigabyte. But first, let's look at megabyte.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=megabyte

For your convenience, I will quote the definition of megabyte as provided by the above link for you:

megabyte:
1. A unit of computer memory or data storage capacity equal to 1,048,576 (2^20) bytes.
2. One million bytes.

As you can cleary see, both definitions of a megabyte are correct, depending on which one you look at.

Below is a link and for the definition of gigabyte:

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=gigabyte

gigabyte:
1. (A unit of computer memory or data storage capacity equal to 1,024 megabytes (230 bytes).
2. One billion bytes.

Once again, you can clearly see that both definitions of gigabyte are correct, depending on how you look at it.

Right now, you have two choices. You can admit that you jumped to conclusions because of your lack of knowledge and uderstanding, or you can continue to be belligerent and display your complete and total ignorance about the very basics of the computer industry. If it was me, I would cut my loses and go troll somewhere else. However, I doubt that you will do that.

Just remember that you aren't telling anybody anything that we didn't already know. The computer industry as a whole and the tech savy public in general KNOWS that there is difference between advertised and real world capacity. We have known this for the last 20 years. Just because you just woke up and realized this doesn't mean you have the basis for a lawsuit.

This ends today's lesson. I have exposed your lunacy, made a complete and total ••••••• out of you, and I thoroughly enjoyed it. Consider yourself schooled. Go forth and teach others so that they can avoid looking as ignorant as you.
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Old 09-23-2003, 07:02 PM
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I agree these people are morons...

But, pervisanathema, why do you feel the need to prove yourself smarter? I mean honestly, there's no point.

It's like having a ••••• size contest with a woman.
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Old 09-24-2003, 03:00 PM
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I really like this one "your about stupid... the other 3 gigs is there its just in..."

I love it when people think they're smarter and yet, everytime, they use the words "your" and "you're" wrong.
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Old 09-24-2003, 03:52 PM
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I really like this one "your about stupid... the other 3 gigs is there its just in..."

I love it when people think they're smarter and yet, everytime, they use the words "your" and "you're" wrong.
lol thought i had said that (we had a grammar lesson in english on that last week
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Old 09-24-2003, 04:22 PM
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What do you lot think is going to happen when you get into 1000gb drives and are losing 24gb? It is called miss marketing 1000mb is not 1gb, 1024mb is 1gb. Some off you are smart but your not very wise, you may not minded lossing 24mb for every 1000 that you pay for but I do. I hope they win, if someone tryed that sh$t in weight and mesures they would get closed down.
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Old 09-24-2003, 04:32 PM
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lol thought i had said that (we had a grammar lesson in english on that last week


This girl in the Intro to Computer class at my high school did something like this. It was a page I guess she lost (I found it in my English class).

- It was 1/2 page typed (with 16pt font)
- no puncuation other than commas
- everything that would be a sentance was ended with a comma which then was followed by two spaces and a capital letter
- also, it was filled with all the grammar mistakes you can think of (including the use of slang and ebonics)
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Old 09-24-2003, 04:34 PM
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What do you lot think is going to happen when you get into 1000gb drives and are losing 24gb? It is called miss marketing 1000mb is not 1gb, 1024mb is 1gb. Some off you are smart but your not very wise, you may not minded lossing 24mb for every 1000 that you pay for but I do. I hope they win, if someone tryed that sh$t in weight and mesures they would get closed down.
but that 24 gigs wouldn't even be 5% of the drive (it is 2.34375% to be exact)
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Old 09-24-2003, 05:06 PM
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but that 24 gigs wouldn't even be 5% of the drive (it is 2.34375% to be exact)
Or 2400% bigger than my first hard drive to be exact

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