Was just browsing Microsoft.Com/downloads and found out there's a DirectX 9.0c update June 07. I thought I'd provide a link incase anyone else might want to update.
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Uhh how can it update DX 10 if XP doesnt use DX 10?
In any case how is this new update?Any noticable improvment in 3d rendering frame rates?
Last one I installed was I think febuary version of DX 9 and beleive it or not,my games were smoother and frame rate was about 5%-10% higher,so I asked around a bit to see how this could be posible and based on what I was told,it seems that as of Febuary 2007 update for DX 9 that microsoft has integrated vista code into it hence the performance improvement
Which is why Im wondering about this new June version,hey maybe they improved the code even more.So if anyone can confirm this please post and say so
Uhh how can it update DX 10 if XP doesnt use DX 10?
Didn't read the system requirements did you,
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* Supported Operating Systems: Windows 2000; Windows 2000 Advanced Server; Windows 2000 Professional Edition ; Windows 2000 Server; Windows 2000 Service Pack 2; Windows 2000 Service Pack 3; Windows 2000 Service Pack 4; Windows 98; Windows 98 Second Edition; Windows Server 2003; Windows Server 2003 Service Pack 1; Windows Server 2003, Datacenter x64 Edition; Windows Server 2003, Enterprise x64 Edition; Windows Server 2003, Standard x64 Edition; Windows Small Business Server 2003 ; Windows Vista; Windows Vista Business; Windows Vista Business 64-bit edition; Windows Vista Business N; Windows Vista Enterprise; Windows Vista Enterprise 64-bit edition; Windows Vista Home Basic; Windows Vista Home Basic 64-bit edition; Windows Vista Home Basic N; Windows Vista Home Premium; Windows Vista Home Premium 64-bit edition; Windows Vista Starter; Windows Vista Starter N; Windows Vista Ultimate; Windows Vista Ultimate 64-bit edition; Windows XP; Windows XP 64-bit; Windows XP Home Edition ; Windows XP Home Edition N; Windows XP Media Center Edition; Windows XP Professional Edition ; Windows XP Professional x64 Edition ; Windows XP Service Pack 1; Windows XP Service Pack 2; Windows XP Starter Edition; Windows XP Tablet PC Edition
Also when I ran it I could see the file names that were being updated, and there were DX 9 and DX 10 files being updated.
DirectX 10 wouldn't automatically include updates to DirectX9. Bea in mind Vista was released six months ago and this update is a couple of weeks old. In Vista, this package probably only updates components for DX9 and earlier DX versions.
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..provides updates to 9.0c and previous versions of DirectX
Thx for clearing that up mjolnir.
Reason I said that was because I heard that vistas DX9 support was "emulated" or something like that,I thought vista was pure DX 10 and that its code was very diferent then original DX 9
Which is why I didnt understand why they would realease a DX 9 update for Vista,I thought it would only be for XP since were all stuck with DX 9 still
In any case MS should also be worrying about DX 10,I mean with the bugs concerning DX 10 video cards and vista.Well Nvidia plays a part in this as well with thier drivers but Im sure MS can help out as well by fixing DX 10 code or something I dunno
Without having played with Vista much yet, I can't comment on the way it uses DX10 and DX9. I've also read that DX10 is significantly different, but DX9 components would also need to be included for backward compatibility.
DX10 isn't a major concern just yet since there's bugger all programs that use it. No doubt MS will update it when these applications start to penetrate the market, just as they did with DX9b and DX9c.
For the record, MS are constantly updating DX9c. If you install some recent games and allow the DirectX install to run, quite often it'll make a few small changes.
DirectX 10 wouldn't automatically include updates to DirectX9. Bea in mind Vista was released six months ago and this update is a couple of weeks old. In Vista, this package probably only updates components for DX9 and earlier DX versions.
The June installer installs updates to both DX 9 and DX 10,
The last file in the highlighted set (d3dx10_34.dll) was added after I ran the update. Also if you download and extract the Redistributable,
you can quite clearly see that there are DX9 and DX10 files included.
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DirectX 10 wouldn't automatically include updates to DirectX9. Bea in mind Vista was released six months ago and this update is a couple of weeks old. In Vista, this package probably only updates components for DX9 and earlier DX versions.
then expalin all the DX10/XACT files in the screen shot above.
then expalin all the DX10/XACT files in the screen shot above.
My guess is it updates references in those files back to the updated DX9 files. The fact that DX10 files have been changed isn't a clear indication that DX10 components have been updated. Maybe they have, but MS haven't mentioned anything about updating DX10 anywhere in the information for that update. So unles that happens I have no reason to believe that DX10 has been updated.
DirectX is an API and not a video driver. I don't know how your frame rates increased at all.
Think of it this way. The video card is some champion hotdog eater at a restaurant. This champion can chow down hotdogs amazingly fast, and in great abundance. Now, the waiter and cook represent DirectX. They are responsible for bringing him his hotdogs.
If the cook can prepare the hot dogs twice as fast, and the waiter runs instead of walks, the champion hot dog eater will be able to eat two to three times more hotdogs than before, right?
Moral: Improved efficiency in DirectX can easily equate to greater FPS performance of a video card.
LOL I love being treated like a n00b
Zach is right.
And yes there is a noticiable diference with new DX code.
Games were much smoother and ran a bit faster with Feb version when compared to older DX versions.Reason for this I was told is cause Feb version integrated vista DX code
Why do you think in the past people would praise OpenGL as a much better rendering option then DX?DX has always been very very HEAVY code and wouldnt perform as well as OpenGL.Now that has changed,especially with vista code.Its much more flexible now
All I want to know is if the June version has improved any more
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