HD 3850 512MB AGP - For Sale in US

HonestJohn · § #1 01-05-2008, 04:34 PM

Manufacturers:

Powercolor HD 3850 512MB: http://www.powercolor.com/Global/pro...ProductID=1730

Sapphire HD 3850 512MB: http://www.sapphiretech.com/us/produ...gpid=211&grp=2

Gecube HD 3850 512MB: http://www.techpowerup.com/index.php?49393

Xazax · § #2 01-07-2008, 04:18 AM

lol, just let AGP DIE already!

**uddarts** · § #3 01-07-2008, 10:52 AM

$200+ vs http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=3787589

ud

RatboyX · § #4 01-07-2008, 05:05 PM

There are two issues with the AGP standard. First and most obvious is lower bandwidth in comparison to PCIe 16. But second is that the platforms that support AGP do not usually support the newer CPU sockets. Yes there are a few motherboards like the K8M800 chip set for AM2 socket CPU’s and the VIA PT 880Pro/PT880 Ultra that support Core2Duo CPU’s. but the selection is very limited and they are not “high End” boards.

There just is no upgrade path for AGP in the high end systems any more. Because of this it makes very little sense to buy a new AGP card at this time. Sure there are always going to be exceptions, but the support for this platform is waning.

Just because you can still buy a PCI (not PCIe) video card doesn’t make it a good idea as a general rule. And just like you can still buy a PCI video card I’m sure that you will be able to buy AGP cards for a long time.

RatboyX · § #5 01-07-2008, 08:19 PM

Hey H.J. , yes all good points, and believe me I take no offense at your words. One thing to remember when we are talking “Bandwidth” here is the fact that you wont have an SLI AGP solution. Even talking 3850 cards you can see why AGP is no longer a high end solution.

If a person already has one of these few AGP Motherboards that support AM2 or C2Duo CPU’s and nice fast RAM then an AGP card isn’t a terrible choice. However one of the two boards (I think it was the VIA chipset one) also has a PCIe16 slot so why not simply go with that?

And if you don’t have one of these boards then you are running a Socket 939, maybe a socket 754 or socket A or one of the old Intel sockets and no matter how good an AGP card you have your overall system performance will not be on par with a newer chipset and PCIe video card.

Again it’s a dead end not only because of bandwidth but also because of chipset support.

And just so we are clear here I have a socket 939 board because when I upgraded I wanted to keep my RAM and a few other things while still being able to move up to a PCIe 16 card. I really regret not going AM2 and faster RAM, but I’ll live with it for now. So I do understand people who continue to use AGP cards, but it’s not a good investment to buy any “Expensive” AGP card.

supercat · § #6 01-08-2008, 12:57 AM

The reason folks buy another AGP card is because it is a whole lot cheaper than buying a whole new computer. That seems pretty obvious to me. You can play recent games on a computer like that, believe it or not.

Nate · § #7 01-08-2008, 01:44 AM

I'm interested in it. I've got a box downstairs hooked up to the 40" Bravia...only has a 9700 Pro 128mb (i think..) in it; so I haven't even bothered trying to play anything other than SNES emulators on it.

Have to see some benchies of it in an AthlonXP rig.

speedfrk · § #8 01-08-2008, 02:41 AM

There are plenty of people who have 939 systems with fast x2's and Opterons that can use one last upgrade. 200.00 is a lot cheaper than the 700.00 it would cost to do even a mild system upgrade and the system I have now does everything I need except play COD4. So I have no reason to upgrade the whole system right now. Even after the system becomes too slow a couple of years down the road, it will still make a nice HTPC with a 3850 in it. So in that respect, it is a very justifiable upgrade. I think the companies that market these cards are going to make a lot of money since there are still millions of AGP computers out there that do everything their owners need it to do except newer games and HDCP for big screen TVs.

supercat · § #9 01-08-2008, 02:56 AM

The computer in my system specs can play CoD4 well, not sure what res my son was using but it was fairly high. It would be nice to see how the 3850 and SM4 makes a difference.

0156 · § #10 01-08-2008, 04:23 AM

Nice cheap upgrade for someone with say an SK8-N socket 940. Slap a dual core opteron in there and you are good to go. There is nothing wrong with agp. Granted it will not ever do super Crysis performance but hey not everyone wants to spend a grip on pc upgrading.

highoctane · § #11 01-08-2008, 11:31 AM

Yup, good to see AGP still kickin, still lots of folks who don't have a budget to upgrade their whole rig just to get their game on.

Although it would have been nice to see the 3870 make the cross over as well the 3850 is a close enough 2nd to get AGP through for a while more with good performance.

supercat · § #12 01-29-2008, 08:09 PM

Well was hoping the 3850 AGP would be released by now, any sightings ?

supercat · § #13 01-31-2008, 04:10 PM

Thanks HJ ! I would prefer PC over Sapphire, wonder who in the states would have the card first. Been checking Newegg.

supercat · § #14 01-31-2008, 05:40 PM

Post it here, I am subscribed. Thanks dude !

**DaFanMan** · § #15 02-01-2008, 01:53 AM

Well,

Im still an Agp user, and have no problem with that. Ya see not all of us can do a major upgrade to the next platform just because

I still have and am currently using my gigabyte NF2 board and its been happily running along at 2.3ghz for the longest time, I also have a vanilla 6600 apg card installed and it does everything i want to do, I will be looking forward to reviews of the above mentioned card and if the price to performance ratio is a good value for my needs I will be very intrested in getting one.

Laterz,
dafanman