Processors Motherboards Chipsets Memory Graphics Cards Storage Cases and Cooling Mobile Systems Displays Shows and Expos
Latest Sponsors

Powered By
Newegg
Tyan Motherboards
Corsair Memory
Western Digital Hard Drives
Red Hat Linux

PC Perspective Forums Sponsor

Go Back   PC Perspective Forums > Motherboards > AMD Motherboards > ECS (Elitegroup)
User Name
Password
Register FAQ Rules Members List iTrader Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 §   #1  
Old 02-02-2008, 02:08 PM
uddarts's Avatar
uddarts
Moderator
Moderator
 
Profile
Joined: Feb 2003
Status: ( Offline )
Posts: 7,441
Ecs A770m-a Am2+/am2 Amd 770 Atx

i think this is the first board that i've bought that didn't come with dust on the box, been out a year or more, open box or discontinued. heck the bios was only released 6 weeks ago.

first off, i've never had a ecs board that didn't work as advertised. i always refer to the k7s5a as the little board that could. great cheap cross over board from sd to ddr that for years gave a zillion oc'rs many ways to make it faster(none of which were ecs sanctioned ).

kudos to ecs with their kn1 and some of their other 939 boards but for some reason seemed to have fallen flat on their face when it's come to the am2. as far as i can see, it's all bios issues. i'm going to use my ka3 mvp for comparison.

with the ka3, i and some others found the vcore pretty much anemic with only a plus .05v. as for memory adustments they left out cas, command rate and the vdimm comes up a little short but adequate considering the other options.

i'm using at the moment a 3600 brisbane and have 4 sets of memory that i have cycled through(pc6400: corsair c4/2.1v, patriot c4/2.2v, adata c5/1.8v & pc8500 crucial tracer cas 5/2.2v).

what we have for bios options: cas settings, vdimm of at least 2.3v, vcore of at least 1.55v, so some issues have been addressed. i'm not convinced they did it for me but possibly for future upgrade compatibility.

what we don't have , any of the usual additional memory settings, ie. tras, trp, etc., command rate, and downward multi control(at least one other manufacturer's board has this issue).

what i've seen so far and many jumper resets has been that the cas 4 ram, even when set to cas 5, refuses to boot above 260 htt. with both cas 5 ram i have seen 290-300 htt but only stable at 280 htt.

i'm current running orthos at 2660mhz@9.5x280 with the tracer set at 1:1/532fsb, vcore 1.425 & ram 2.2v stock.

i'm going to run through the other sets of ram as times goes on to see where and what is going on(within my limits, considering the absence of tech abilities). i think the cas 4 memory is being set at 1t and with other board and cpu combinations, i've always had to run 2t.

take note when setting the ht multiplier, one must hit enter and cursor down in the red pop up window to select what you want and hit enter again. otherwise using any of the other keys will result in having to hit alt, crtl & delete, then reenter the bios and start over. it had me going for a while till i got luckyand found the right trick.

also, the ecs website has a pdf for memory placement. instead of the usual closest to the cpu, they recommend slots 3 & 4. from what i've seen, they're nutzzzzzzzzz! i've tried it and rejected that placement.


later


ud
__________________
folding@home


Last edited by uddarts : 02-02-2008 at 02:16 PM.
Reply With Quote
 §   #2  
Old 02-02-2008, 02:08 PM
uddarts's Avatar
uddarts
Moderator
Moderator
 
Profile
Joined: Feb 2003
Status: ( Offline )
Posts: 7,441
Re: Ecs A770m-a Am2+/am2 Amd 770 Atx

saga of the quad 9850

these board weren't made with enough head room and no parallel fets for the 125w cpu. so i added some heat sinks to help a little.









ud

Last edited by uddarts : 04-21-2008 at 10:50 AM.
Reply With Quote
 §   #3  
Old 02-04-2008, 12:01 PM
steveo24
Registered User
 
Profile
Joined: Feb 2002
Location: Chesapeake, VA
Age: 38
My System
Status: ( Offline )
Posts: 135
Re: Ecs A770m-a Am2+/am2 Amd 770 Atx

Thanks for the review. Sounds like they are still behind in the BIOS area however.
Reply With Quote
 §   #4  
Old 02-04-2008, 12:10 PM
uddarts's Avatar
uddarts
Moderator
Moderator
 
Profile
Joined: Feb 2003
Status: ( Offline )
Posts: 7,441
Re: Ecs A770m-a Am2+/am2 Amd 770 Atx

tks

found out over the weekend and 4 sets of ram, that anytime a divider is used the command rate goes to 1t. the biostar board does the same thing. looks like it's going to take some time to shake the bugs out. at this time i'll give ecs the benefit of the doubt. i have a 5000-be to put in later and give that a whirl.


ud
Reply With Quote
 §   #5  
Old 02-04-2008, 05:45 PM
srea
Registered User
 
Profile
Joined: Mar 2002
Location: Croatia
Status: ( Offline )
Posts: 971
Re: Ecs A770m-a Am2+/am2 Amd 770 Atx

....wow wow my again AMI mbo wtf is with ecs...there are only one 770amd
with award gess........http://www2.abit.com.tw/page/en/moth...E=Socket%20AM2
....when i see ami is like next...this chipset is only en cool to get us 5000 black to black(out of orbit)
Reply With Quote
 §   #6  
Old 02-09-2008, 12:06 AM
uddarts's Avatar
uddarts
Moderator
Moderator
 
Profile
Joined: Feb 2003
Status: ( Offline )
Posts: 7,441
Re: Ecs A770m-a Am2+/am2 Amd 770 Atx

Quote:
....wow wow my again AMI mbo wtf is with ecs...
it took me a while to get the minus & shift plus thing down.

i burnt the board up on wednesday!!!! the replacement arrived today so i'll have to get the heat probe out what the heck happens. torched the area around the mosfets.



ud
Reply With Quote
 §   #7  
Old 02-11-2008, 08:00 PM
srea
Registered User
 
Profile
Joined: Mar 2002
Location: Croatia
Status: ( Offline )
Posts: 971
Re: Ecs A770m-a Am2+/am2 Amd 770 Atx

.... mosfets.....from my expiriance too ok(hungry) vga?......
..ecs is not eqp for sloted ami(bios) since 7years ago..
..its more like joke.......
Reply With Quote
 §   #8  
Old 02-12-2008, 07:56 PM
uddarts's Avatar
uddarts
Moderator
Moderator
 
Profile
Joined: Feb 2003
Status: ( Offline )
Posts: 7,441
Re: Ecs A770m-a Am2+/am2 Amd 770 Atx

does a ati 550 count as too hungry?




from top to bottom 45 to 54c, not really enough to cause that.


ud

Last edited by uddarts : 02-13-2008 at 01:53 AM.
Reply With Quote
 §   #9  
Old 03-16-2008, 11:51 AM
FingerOfGoad
Banned
 
Profile
Joined: Feb 2008
My System
Status: ( Offline )
Posts: 138
Re: Ecs A770m-a Am2+/am2 Amd 770 Atx

any update on this board and where are the pix ud?
Reply With Quote
 §   #10  
Old 03-20-2008, 12:36 PM
uddarts's Avatar
uddarts
Moderator
Moderator
 
Profile
Joined: Feb 2003
Status: ( Offline )
Posts: 7,441
Re: Ecs A770m-a Am2+/am2 Amd 770 Atx

it's currently sitting without a hs.

nothing more to add until i see a new bios. the command rate and divider issue prevents it from moving up to a excellent oc board.


ud
Reply With Quote
 §   #11  
Old 03-20-2008, 01:15 PM
undersea's Avatar
undersea
Submarine
 
Profile
Joined: Jul 2003
Location: Bogota, NJ
My System
Status: ( Offline )
Posts: 7,031
Re: Ecs A770m-a Am2+/am2 Amd 770 Atx

Cool,

Now just a bad board first go round or do you suspect something else?
__________________
"Angels on the sideline, Puzzled and amused.
Why did Father give these humans free will?
Now they’re all confused."


940@ 3.2, Biostar 750(Bios 7/23) Patriot 2 x 2GB (DDR2-1066), OCZ 600, Xigmatek HDT-S1283, WD AAKS 640, Powercolor 4850 AC S1, Auzentech X-Studio, Vista 64

Phenom 940 @ 3.6, Biostar 790GX(9/6/09Bios), OCZ Gold 2 x 2GB unganged 5-6-6-15 (DDR2 1066), OCZ 700, Sunbeam Cooler, OCZ Summit 120,Sapphire 5770, WIN 7

Reply With Quote
 §   #12  
Old 03-20-2008, 01:20 PM
uddarts's Avatar
uddarts
Moderator
Moderator
 
Profile
Joined: Feb 2003
Status: ( Offline )
Posts: 7,441
Re: Ecs A770m-a Am2+/am2 Amd 770 Atx

no the first one had to be bad. the heat had to be pretty intense to melt that pad.

this one seems to be just fine but i did mount it on a mb tray to be sure.


ud
Reply With Quote
 §   #13  
Old 03-27-2008, 12:14 PM
uddarts's Avatar
uddarts
Moderator
Moderator
 
Profile
Joined: Feb 2003
Status: ( Offline )
Posts: 7,441
Re: Ecs A770m-a Am2+/am2 Amd 770 Atx

flashed to the 02/16/08 bios today. description
Quote:
-Agesa Version : 3.1.6.0.
-Supports OverClock function for AM2+ 9600 Black edition CPU
these oc bugs remain.


Quote:
take note when setting the ht multiplier, one must hit enter and cursor down in the red pop up window to select what you want and hit enter again. otherwise using any of the other keys will result in having to hit alt, crtl & delete, then reenter the bios and start over.

Quote:
using a memory divider produces cmd rate 1t and instability.

ud
Reply With Quote
 §   #14  
Old 04-10-2008, 04:40 PM
uddarts's Avatar
uddarts
Moderator
Moderator
 
Profile
Joined: Feb 2003
Status: ( Offline )
Posts: 7,441
Re: Ecs A770m-a Am2+/am2 Amd 770 Atx

now first off, i do stupid things. so don't anyone go and hit the summit button because i did.

in the beginning.............




news at 10:00.

ud
Reply With Quote
 §   #15  
Old 04-10-2008, 05:01 PM
undersea's Avatar
undersea
Submarine
 
Profile
Joined: Jul 2003
Location: Bogota, NJ
My System
Status: ( Offline )
Posts: 7,031
Re: Ecs A770m-a Am2+/am2 Amd 770 Atx

Quote:
Originally Posted by uddarts View Post
now first off, i do stupid things. so don't anyone go and hit the summit button because i did.

in the beginning.............




news at 10:00.

ud

Hopefully a middle and an end
Reply With Quote
Reply



Go Back   PC Perspective Forums > Motherboards > AMD Motherboards > ECS (Elitegroup)

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:18 PM.


Powered by vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2010, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
© PC Perspective 2000 - Present