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Old 10-23-2009, 07:06 PM
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bad batches of vaccine responsible for shaken baby syndrome

http://www.know-vaccines.org/yurko.html

this article is based on some main stream mags. so don't discount it right off. apparently poorly produced vaccines can cause some rather nasty side effects in certain children.
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Old 10-24-2009, 04:02 AM
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Re: bad batches of vaccine responsible for shaken baby syndrome

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Old 10-24-2009, 04:09 AM
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Re: bad batches of vaccine responsible for shaken baby syndrome

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http://www.know-vaccines.org/yurko.html

this article is based on some main stream mags. so don't discount it right off. apparently poorly produced vaccines can cause some rather nasty side effects in certain children.
Yeah, but the benefit outweighs the risks. Kinda like driving a car to get to work.
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Old 10-24-2009, 12:51 PM
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Re: bad batches of vaccine responsible for shaken baby syndrome

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Old 10-24-2009, 02:31 PM
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Re: bad batches of vaccine responsible for shaken baby syndrome

a friend of mine has a kid which was a normal kid. After taking the flu shot, the kid developed some form of "Autism". The child was completely changed, and the medical profession completely dismissed it and did not believe that it could do it to the child.

Apparently there were some other cases which surfaced 20+ years ago which were similar in nature, but as always it is forgotten and buried.

Let me ask you a question JustinC, if you were perfectly capable to see with prescription glasses and simply out of vanity wanted to see without using the glasses or complications of using contact lenses: "Would you chance going blind by having a simple Laser eye surgery?"

I have a sister which sided with the Vanity aspect and is now a statistic to Murphy's Law. She regrets it, and I laugh as I warned her of the hidden cause of taking Risks with things you shouldn't risk loosing. The same goes with any type of Flu shot. They never ever came with a Guarantee of what the side effects were. Again, Human cost is never taken into consideration with these things when alternatives are present in prevention.
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Old 10-30-2009, 11:12 AM
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Re: bad batches of vaccine responsible for shaken baby syndrome

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a friend of mine has a kid which was a normal kid. After taking the flu shot, the kid developed some form of "Autism". The child was completely changed, and the medical profession completely dismissed it and did not believe that it could do it to the child.

Apparently there were some other cases which surfaced 20+ years ago which were similar in nature, but as always it is forgotten and buried.

Let me ask you a question JustinC, if you were perfectly capable to see with prescription glasses and simply out of vanity wanted to see without using the glasses or complications of using contact lenses: "Would you chance going blind by having a simple Laser eye surgery?"

I have a sister which sided with the Vanity aspect and is now a statistic to Murphy's Law. She regrets it, and I laugh as I warned her of the hidden cause of taking Risks with things you shouldn't risk loosing. The same goes with any type of Flu shot. They never ever came with a Guarantee of what the side effects were. Again, Human cost is never taken into consideration with these things when alternatives are present in prevention.
Hmmm I took the "risk" of laser surgery and now I see without glasses. When your Lasik surgeon has had the surgery kind of outweighs the possible side effects. And since when is a vaccination considered vanity? So I suppose you wont get any vaccinations because of the risk? So maybe we should not vaccinate for Small pox, or Polio because there may be side affects 20 yrs down the road. Hmmm maybe we could use another bubonic plague
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Old 10-30-2009, 12:49 PM
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Re: bad batches of vaccine responsible for shaken baby syndrome

most of those diseases would never have had the potency they did on well nourished healthy people.
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Old 10-30-2009, 12:57 PM
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most of those diseases would never have had the potency they did on well nourished healthy people.
That is simply BS. Small pox and polio would be devastating for a great number of 'well nourished healthy people'. Naturally you are partly right since after infection none of the people would be healthy.

HI-virus probably never causes AIDS either, right?
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Old 10-30-2009, 01:00 PM
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Re: bad batches of vaccine responsible for shaken baby syndrome

What comes to the topic of this thread: it has never been proven (that vaccines killed the child), but the father has plead 'no contest' to manslaugher of his child. Naturally 'whackos-vs-vaccines' take that as evidence?
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Old 10-30-2009, 01:02 PM
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Re: bad batches of vaccine responsible for shaken baby syndrome

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a friend of mine has a kid which was a normal kid. After taking the flu shot, the kid developed some form of "Autism". The child was completely changed, and the medical profession completely dismissed it and did not believe that it could do it to the child.

Apparently there were some other cases which surfaced 20+ years ago which were similar in nature, but as always it is forgotten and buried.

Let me ask you a question JustinC, if you were perfectly capable to see with prescription glasses and simply out of vanity wanted to see without using the glasses or complications of using contact lenses: "Would you chance going blind by having a simple Laser eye surgery?"

I have a sister which sided with the Vanity aspect and is now a statistic to Murphy's Law. She regrets it, and I laugh as I warned her of the hidden cause of taking Risks with things you shouldn't risk loosing. The same goes with any type of Flu shot. They never ever came with a Guarantee of what the side effects were. Again, Human cost is never taken into consideration with these things when alternatives are present in prevention.
Prevention is never the answer. Prevention barely ever works. It helps, but it isn't the only way. Prevention and treatment are two different things.

Ever heard the placebo effect? Lots of people undergo that. I like how the term Autism and Aspegers is being used by a lot of people as a scape goat for their shortcomings.

only way you can be diagnosed is if a qualified doctor says so, not some guy that read stuff off the internet.
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Old 10-30-2009, 01:33 PM
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Re: bad batches of vaccine responsible for shaken baby syndrome

what you just posted makes no sense on many levels....
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what you just posted makes no sense on many levels....
lol like every post you make here.
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